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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #174666
04/13/09 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by tback
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That story is even funnier when Jake and Karl tell it together.


It's always the crews fault (jake, I've got your back) ... especially after too much Tommy Bahama RUM.

What did I hear Karl say at the party: A Rum hangover isn't nearly as bad as a beer hangover--that's why I drink RUM!"

And the next day, the comment from Karl: "Boy was I wrong"!



Well,I've actually got to back-up Karl on this one. There is no way he could be blamed for the entertainment that Jake provided for us,because he was standing in the parking lot with a look of absolute astonishment on his face. We were both wondering why Jake would go sailing with the wheels and chocks still on the boat.Talk about a situation going downhill fast.
And Ding is definitely right it's way funnier when they both tell it.

p.s. Ding, I want your shirt!
Tawd


You guys are going to make me tell that story on here aren't you. crazy


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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174667
04/13/09 11:20 AM
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YEP!


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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174672
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Tell the story Jake!

Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: drbinkle] #174682
04/13/09 01:13 PM
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Oooh.....I'll tell it. At least from my prespective....There was going to be an 11am first gun and the race committee made it clear that there would be no delays. Subway was scheduled to drop off lunch at 10am, so there was not a lot of time to get all the boats launched in time. Jake and I decided to put the boat in the water partial rigged and move it off to the side and he'd finish up rigging while I went to get lunch. We get the boat into the water and the bows start to swing out. I ask Jake if he had the boat. No he said he did not (apparently he did not want to get wet passed his ankles). He jumped on and said that he'd just drift over to the point. I left now and went to get the sandwiches. About 5 minutes later I walk back down to the ramp, and Jake is half way across the lake sailing back towards the ramp with the main only half way up and the beach wheels dragging behind the boat. WTF?!?!?! Well he finally made it back to the beach and we straightened everything out (well almost....see other story about plugs) and headed out. I'll let Jake tell the rest of the story as I did not see that part.


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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #174690
04/13/09 01:55 PM
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OK...so here's the part that Karl missed;

The air was warm but the water was a little cool yet. Since the Subway sandwiches were going to be available at 10am and racing slated to start at 11, Karl and I decided that we would work to avoid the rush for the launch ramp and go ahead and get the boat in the water. I would hold it on shore while he went to get sandwiches. Figuring we would finish dressing with gear and what-not from the shoreline, we had all our stuff (including my spray suit, harness, and lifejacket) on the trampoline. Because the wind was blowing at 90 degrees to the ramp, we only strung up the jib and left the mainsail on the trampoline with the gear and rolled down the ramp with the wheels under the boat and the stern pads bunjied firmly on the sterns. It’s important to note that the cove is “C” shaped and the ramp is in the middle. With the boat now in the water, it became evident when the beach wheels hit the curb on the side of the launch ramp that I was going to have to get chest deep in the water to get to the bow to keep the boat into the wind as the jib was full and starting to pull pretty hard. Mind you, I was basically wearing fleece pajamas at this point and hadn't put on a spray suit or anything. As I headed for the bow I got as far as the front beam and was already waist deep in the cold water that is probably around 50 to 55 degrees F. Once my manhood was submerged I changed my mind about getting all the way to the bow and I told Karl to go for the sandwiches - I would just drift over to the other side of the cove and I jumped on the boat. Karl, showing great confidence in my judgment, turned and walked the considerable distance up the hill to the food tent as I drifted clear of the dock and headed, as anticipated, for the shore on the opposite side of the cove. About half way there, a gust hit with a big change of direction, the jib filled, and shot me out toward the middle of the lake at an astonishingly brisk clip even with the stern chocks and the beach dolly under the boat.

After I got over the stunning disappointment of missing the point on the cove, I realized I was sliding sideways over a shoal and thought about jumping off to park the boat and sort it out. I was concerned that I might not be able to get it turned quickly enough if the beach wheels bottomed out on the ground so I quickly nixed that idea. I certainly didn't want to be left standing on a shoal in the middle of a lake by myself, in my wet pajamas, watching my boat sail off to never never land with my beach wheels, stern chocks, and all my sailing gear without me or, worse, being dragged surfing behind the boat with no life jacket or warm gear - this was already bad enough. So here I go sailing out to the middle of the lake completely unprepared and with no control. I tried to get the mainsail up so I could balance the sails and turn the boat into the wind but with the boat reaching, the main kept getting caught on a trapeze wire and I couldn't shake it loose - I tried to hoist it twice but it took all my strength to hoist it while on that reach and I only have two hands. I was also hoping to steer the boat more into the wind but I couldn't get the rudders down because the stern chocks were in the way, so I carefully worked to remove them without loosing them OR falling in the water. It took me several minutes but I finally got the chocks free and stored on the trampoline. The rudders were down now but I couldn't steer with beach wheels still under the boat and the jib pulling the bows down without a mainsail to balance it. I couldn't get daggerboards down because the beach wheels cradles were blocking the trunks. I'm now about 150 yards away from shore and working quickly on "Plan D" to get the daggerboards down.

At this point, it's clear that the beach wheels need to come out - but they are really dragging hard through the water and I don't want to let them drift loose across the lake. However, with them in the water, I was quite sure I wouldn’t be able to hold on to them if they were completely free of the boat so I raise the rudders, untie one side of the beach wheels from the shroud, and quickly tied it to the chicken line that runs down the hull. I carefully untied the other side and let it go....the beach wheels immediately shot out from under the boat and spun while remaining in tow from the one line tied to the chicken line side just as I had hoped. I can now get the daggerboards down but with the drag from the beach wheels and the boat still unbalanced with just the jib pulling the boat, I can't make any progress to weather to get back to the beach and pick up my sandwich ... and Karl. I figure that, by now, Karl must be standing on the shore line staring at me and I can only hope he hasn't called for help. I have yet to glance back at the launch ramp as I'm hopeful that my plight hasn’t been noticed by the fleet that was hurriedly rigging their boats for racing. I'm terrified that even the slightest gaze from me toward that ramp might somehow subliminally attract the attention of someone in the fleet prompting a "hey!, look at Jake!". If I had any chance to recover unnoticed, I just COULDN'T look back at the beach as I felt it would seal my fate.

I'm now about 200 yards or so from the beach and the mainsail has to go up to get back. Because the boat is still reaching, I still can't get it to clear the trap line so with the main about 2/3 up I tie off the halyard to the trampoline lacing and lash another line to the clew of the main and the opposite corner of the boat to pull it toward the center. FINALLY I can point back at the beach and although I'm able to fly a hull, the drag of the beach wheels is making my progress painfully slow increasing the risk for mass recognition. Now that I'm finally pointing back in that direction, I have no choice but to look back at the beach and I was relieved to not see a mass of people and cameras at the bottom of the ramp. There was only Karl walking down the ramp with a sandwich in each hand and undoubtedly pondering the empty beach. It looked like I mostly got away without being noticed. I finally get back in the cove, raise the boards and rudders, and come to a stop on the shore line where Karl is waiting. He places the sandwiches on the trampoline and says "should I ask?”. I don't think my response was anything more than a simple grumble and at least 10 minutes went by before I even began to explain the process of events occurred...

And this is how we came to sail the first two races without drain plugs.

Last edited by Jake; 04/13/09 06:43 PM. Reason: details and grammar

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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174691
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I hope somebody is going to send some of this to Sailing World! (along with pictures)


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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174692
04/13/09 02:02 PM
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Jake, I saw you tightening your drain plugs with pliers .... I thought this strange as I didn't think there was much pressure on the plugs that hand tightening wouldn't solve.

Was this before, or after, your ... errr ... "casual sail"?


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04/13/09 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tback
Jake, I saw you tightening your drain plugs with pliers .... I thought this strange as I didn't think there was much pressure on the plugs that hand tightening wouldn't solve.

Was this before, or after, your ... errr ... "casual sail"?


After - and the wrench was used so nobody would ever remove them again. The ONLY two times I have ever needed drain plugs was when I forgot to put them in the hull in the first place. I rarely ever remove drain plugs but I either did it for the long haul or someone else did it as I had some people helping me de-rig the boat last time.


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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174700
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I sailed past Jake on the way out and he was sailing back in, with a "reefed" Main and a drogue chute(beach wheels) dragging behind the boat. I thought he was a little scared of the wind....


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: dave mosley] #174709
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Wait till he sees the bill. The drain plugs are cheap, but the on-the-water delivery surcharge is $$$

Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Jake] #174716
04/13/09 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Timbo
8 Races, excellent! I guess they had wind.


Good wind - it got light and fluky for one race in the middle of Saturday but quickly picked back up - good 10 to 15 for most of the day. Sunday was much the same but the wind gradually died as we commenced racing for the event. Wonderful racing, great parties, and a very worthwhile time.

Alex is so flawless on the race course. We found ourselves in front of him at A-mark only three or four times but even then it didn't last long and Alex posted all bullets for the event. We did have one really exciting finish where the difference had to be the width of a credit card at the finish line!

After a rather bungled up launching of the boat Saturday morning, I had left the drain plugs out of the General and raced that way for TWO races (about 1.5 hours or better). I couldn't figure out why in the world the rear beam was slapping downwind on a lake. Fortunately (for us) a wind shift and a technical problem with one of the safety boat engines caused just enough delay in the racing that allowed us to get to a beach and drain the water...a LOT of water. the starboard hull had so much in it, we were able to tip the boat back and drain water out of the inspection port. We still had a big problem though because we had lost one of the drain plugs. I thought to myself, "of anyone out here, who might have a spare drain plug"...the answer came to me almost immediately and I yelled out to the Zhik/Layline boat 50 yards away "David Lennard - got a drain plug!?". Sure as **** he actually had a spare one on the boat. At that point, I almost expected him to pull an I20 shroud out of that hull too and check to see if I needed it!


Jake:

I have a VERY funny tale about plugs. I was racing 14 Turbo at Mid-Americas in 81 or 82. Went out and was sitting waiting for the start. Bows where raising some so I went back to see why back of boat was in the water. Plugs where not screwed in!!! Well like a DA I thought I would just leen over and put them in. BAD judgment as it slowly roller over backwards and turtled. We had to pull one of the shroud pins with mask to get mast down and sails on rescue boat. Towed it in full of water as it would not come back over. I NEVER heard the end of that at raffle that night. Took hours to drain.

Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: ] #174718
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It was a good regatta, with some good partying too smile

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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: krona] #174719
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I thought what happened at SF stayed at SF!


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Need More Cowbell!


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: dave mosley] #174754
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I'm sure all you NC State alumni out there will be proud to know that NC State Sailing (and Velocity Sailing) proudly ruled the flip-cup table(s).

What's UNC got on that besides some sweater vests and argyle socks? Nada!



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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: NCSUtrey] #174756
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I like how Kirk is yelling at me about something and Jake is practicing in that picture.

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Re: Spring Fever Updates? [Re: Timbo] #174874
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The only thing missing from this story...your fuzzy pajama bottoms needed to get caught on something in the lake, and tear into tiny little flinders....


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