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Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 164 The Netherlands (North West Eu... RobLammerts OP
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Posts: 164 The Netherlands (North West Eu... | Hello all,
I was wondering if some of you could help me to setup my SPI system. I have a 25m2 Spi. 9.34 * 8.08 * 4.20 meters and a 9.34 meter long mast. At what place do I mount the Spi hound ? I am thinking of a Spiboom of app 3.90 meters.
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Rob
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#18419 04/09/03 07:01 AM 04/09/03 07:01 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | LOL, meters,whats that??? Well the the safe place for the spin. hound is believed to be one third up,the distance between the main hound and top of the mast. I'm not sure where the stock spin. hound is on a N boat. Most seem to be half way. What boat did the spin. come from. Can you go back to that boat and measure those dimensions? I would opt for the lower spin. hound postion and if needed have the spin. recut.
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#18420 04/09/03 08:16 AM 04/09/03 08:16 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W Todd_Sails
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | The height of the spin tack-pole height, has alot to do with it.
If you're tramp launching it, put the tack lower, rake the mast back, that equals a lower hound height.
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#18421 04/09/03 11:07 AM 04/09/03 11:07 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA Kevin Rose
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Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA | Todd and Mike, I've became intrigued by another thread recently showing spi setups on international Tornados. What are your thoughts on this type of attachment?
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Posts: 164 The Netherlands (North West Eu... | There is a hound mounted on the mast by the previuos owner, and indeed it is mounted app one third from the main hound. When I look at other 6.0's they alway's mount between top and hound app 1/3 from the top. I am thinking of lounching from the tramp. The length of the Spi pole will be app 12.8 foot (3.9 meter) And yes Kevin I am thinking of a similar hound, there is also a lot of info on this on Wouters site. Does anyone have used a set up like this ?
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#18423 04/09/03 02:01 PM 04/09/03 02:01 PM |
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Posts: 364 | I use a setup similar to the one in the picture for my Prindle 19, and it works great. I recommend it highly; you only have the one (or two) holes in the mast itself. The bail (or leash, or tether) that holds the halyard to the mast is drilled thru the luff track and does not compromise the watertighness of the mast. Further, it minimizes weight aloft, and promotes mast rotation. All good!
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | I agree, have same on my Spitfire, and also had on my Hawk, allows mast to rotate fully.
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | I dont see that the bail, lash/tether goes into the luff track. How does it work? Does it tie thru 2 holes, have eyes on one or each side? Thanks, David SEACATS
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#18427 04/09/03 05:50 PM 04/09/03 05:50 PM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | Kevin, My set up is some thing like the one pictured.The only diffrence is my spin haylard is led inside the luff track. It goes over the top of the mast through two small blocks and then down to the hound block. The nice thing is I only have one line hanging around if the chute is bagged and no line against the outside of the mast. You need to keep an eye on the hound line. If you can't run it like mine then it has to be done like the picture.
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#18430 04/09/03 10:18 PM 04/09/03 10:18 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA Kevin Rose
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Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA | As far as the pole goes,how much adjustment do have with a N boat. Does the foil restrict you?
Mike The foil does limit how high you can bring the pole. Many of the 6.0na sailors use bridle foil wires that are 4" longer than stock. (I just ordered a pair from Rick Bliss at New England Catamarans.)
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | Dermot,The only problem with that setup is it looks like there is 4 holes instead of just two. Am I seeing that right?
Mike Wouters photo has 4 holes in the track, where the rope goes in and then out again on the same side and is knotted. The photo that Kevin has at the beginning of this thread, looks as if the hole is just large enough to take the rope twice. It goes across the track, out, and is then knotted. As others have said, holes in the track do not compromise the sealed mast.
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Kevin, et.al., I have been posting a link to the tornado site for awhile now. MIne is rigged exactly like the pic, and my knots for the bail loop line are INSIDE my sail track. It works fine with just two holes, pull it thru, tie a knot, and slip it back into the sail track, the outside knot obviously works also. For those who don't have the link: http://www.acay.com.au/~bundy/layout.htmlThis is a good discussion, enjoy!
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#18436 04/11/03 09:51 AM 04/11/03 09:51 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA Kevin Rose
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Posts: 397 Burlington, Vermont USA | I have been posting a link to the tornado site for awhile now. MIne is rigged exactly like the pic, and my knots for the bail loop line are INSIDE my sail track. It works fine with just two holes, pull it thru, tie a knot, and slip it back into the sail track, the outside knot obviously works also. . . This is a good discussion, enjoy! Todd, Links to sites like that are sooooo helpful. Thanks. The photographs of the rigging details are great. One thing that I noted was the hardware used for attachment to the main beam. Any thoughts on the best way to source those specialty items? On a related note, aside from old windsurfer masts, etc., it seems that there's always difficulty in sourcing aluminum tubing for poles. Yesterday I was poking around in the Thomas Register for distributors. When looking at the various specs for t-6061 drawn tubing, this question came to mind. What is the minimum acceptable wall thickness? (Say, for a 2" OD tube.) Also, for those who run the tack line inside the pole, what do you use for blocks where the line exits near the beam? Is it an in-line, through deck block set into the pole?
Kevin Rose
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