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Posts: 148 Cutler Bay, Florida | Top 20 Boats Infusion 7 Wildcat 6 Shockwave 2 Capricorn 2 Tiger 1 Mattia 1 Diam 3 1
Is the Tiger losing its popularity? I'm amazed at how many Wildcats were in the race, considering its short life on the water.
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#185677 07/21/09 10:13 AM 07/21/09 10:13 AM |
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | All types, even a Tiger, broke a mast. Nobody's invulnerable - in big air, if the main is off and the 'chute is up, you're asking for a tow.
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#185678 07/21/09 10:30 AM 07/21/09 10:30 AM |
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | Top 20 Boats Infusion 7 Wildcat 6 Shockwave 2 Capricorn 2 Tiger 1 Mattia 1 Diam 3 1
Is the Tiger losing its popularity? I'm amazed at how many Wildcats were in the race, considering its short life on the water. Remember the event was in Europe. It's really hard to compare what's going there compared to the U.S. as far as sailing. I would go as far as to say it's apples and oranges. J | | | Re: After World's Questions
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Posts: 1,203 uk | Gummer/Crawford were on a Shockwave Some info from the web site Catamaran Racing about the 2009 F18 Worlds:
OVERALL RESULTS No Sailno Name Boat 1 NED 3 De Koning Coen, Visser Thijs Infusion 2 GBR 1111 Rob Wilson, Lynch Marcus Shockwave 3 GBR 1204 Styles Hugh, West Ferdinand Infusion 4 AUS 8 Ashby Glenn, Howden William Wildcat 5 NED 1202 Larsen Gunnar, Dubbeldam Infusion 6 FRA 94 Mourniac J, Guyader Wildcat 7 FRA 9 Vaireaux Moana, Petit R Wildcat 8 FRA 88 Fequet Loïc, Filippi Wildcat 9 FRA 111 Morvan François, Vandame Mathieu Shockwave 10 NED 1 Macpherson Andrew, Derckson Herbert Infusion 11 GER 203 Sach Helge, Sach Christian Infusion 12 NED 1164 Larsen Sascha, Van Helden Christa Infusion 13 AUS 145 Goodall Greg, Goodall Brett Capricorn 14 FRA 5 Sellier Thomas, Moreau Fred Diam 3 15 GBR 887 Gummer Stuart, Crawford Ryan Capricorn 16 NED 7 Heemskerk Mischa, Tentij Bastiaan Wildcat 17 FRA 1169 Besson Billy, Jarlegan Arneaud Infusion 18 AUS 1 Booth Taylor, Bernier Jacques Tiger 19 FRA 1 Vauchel Camus , Lagarrigue Jeremie Mattia F18 20 ITA 10 Sorrentino Vincenzo, Longhi Guido Wildcat
Top 20 Boats Infusion 7 Wildcat 6 Shockwave 2 Capricorn 2 Tiger 1 Mattia 1 Diam 3 1
Crew weight (top 20) from 350 lbs to 385 lbs (around 160 to 174 kg)
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Posts: 1,203 uk | What's the deal with broken masts and daggerboards I heard rumors about? What kind of boats? A combination of things; A huge amount of tide running against the wind Shallow water [ Boats won't invert] A race committee keeping racing going in stupid winds because they are behind on the schedule and are being forced to get the races in. 180 boats - 1 course - too many!
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Posts: 749 Santa Cruz, CA | What would the F18 Worlds look like if it were held in the USA? Would we reach a registration cap? Would a ton of boats from EU show up? Mike
Mike, As an indicator of how that might go down, The Tiger Worlds in Santa Barbara in 2005 we had close to 100 boats show up- alot of European teams. There were something around 35 US teams. http://www.hobieworlds.com/tiger2005/results/tigerworlds_overall.htmlI bet if you held an F18 event with the same parameters as the Tiger event in Santa Barbara you'd see more boats now. Things have matured a bit over the last 4 years as far as F18s are concerned. J | | | Re: After World's Questions
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Unregistered | A quick per country analysis. From the top 20: 7 FRA 5 NED 3 GBR 3 AUS 1 GER 1 ITA I'm impressed by the AUS results: Placing 3 of 7 in the top 20 is quite a good result (42%). A better result than the 7 out of 27 FRA (25%) or the abysmal 5 out of 37 NED (13%). And not a BEL in sight, considering it was on their home water and that there was 34 BEL teams, quite a disappointment. I guess the farthest the race is from your home country, the better the sailors become. Except for the US obviously First class comment douche | | | Re: After World's Questions
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I've seen all the other boats but never heard of the Shockwave, who makes it? Are there any in the USA?
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Thanks, does it look like a bigger version of that boat? Kind of the way the Cap looks like a big Viper (or Viper looks like a small Cap if you prefer).
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | I've seen all the other boats but never heard of the Shockwave, who makes it? Are there any in the USA? The Spitfire's big brother. Not that I've seen, but I don't get around much.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I've actually sailed on a Spitfire! All thanks to Dermot in Dublin! (Thanks again Dermot!)
I liked the Spitfire design, big round hulls with lots of volume, is the Shockwave designed like that?
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