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h14, very old, rudder casting problems #18971
04/26/03 06:12 PM
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ok, well, i just spent an hour and a half trying to get those two small brittle 35+yr old nylon insert bolts, on the inside of the rudder casting (for tensioning the cam i guess, cams have always been broken and non functional on my boat as its been a project and never sailed yet)
basicly,
what is the name of the cam assembly, with the spring and nylock tensioner bolt and the bushing and the little black bearing i suppose it is, and does anyone have any spares???
im 17 and i only make 100 bucks a week @ work, with for 8 weeks , my paychecks go to paying off debts i owe, i was hoping to get the boat back together before then,
right now theres two burt to a crist nylon bols stuck in the casting that ive tried everything i can to get out, i guess ill just continue at it with the propane torch till it totally burns out, im out of ideas. need to get these parts finished before tonight, ugh, hate rushing.
thanks
jason

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Re: h14, very old, rudder casting problems [Re: hydroluge] #18972
04/26/03 09:45 PM
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From the 2002 Hobie catalog:
cams part number 10480000 $7 each
plungers should be good unless they melt 10440000 $2.80
Springs should be good to reuse 10430000 $5.65
Delrin Tension screw 60450000 $6.50 ea

Go ahead and burn them out. You can even drill most of them out with a big drill bit and then burn the rest out. You will need to chase the threads before putting the new tension screws in with a tap. I think it is a pipe thread but take the new screws with you go looking for the tap. Use marine grease when you put it back together and every year put a dab of marine grease between the plunger and the cam.

good luck
Bill

Re: h14, very old, rudder casting problems [Re: h16bill] #18973
04/26/03 10:28 PM
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thanks so much for the advice, though ive somewhat damaged the threads of one of the castings, and im a bit worried about investing $ and ending up having another delrin screw stuck up there, a tap that size probably runs what, 15-20 bucks? not to mention a handle for it...
anyone got some lower h-14-t castings they can let go of cheap to a 17 yr old independently restoring a very early model hobie 14 turbo?????? if not, i guess ill go buy all that crap, cuz the springs are shot, they arent the new style with the built in nipple shaped bushing that sits attop the sping, its the old style with the bearing seat and a black nylon ball, one ball was missing, so ill have to reorder all that, HO boy,
boats, big holes in the water made for throwing money into :-)
gotta love em
thanks again
jason

Re: h14, very old, rudder casting problems [Re: hydroluge] #18974
04/27/03 10:47 PM
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Lower castings are $130 to replace. Why don't you try and borrow a tap. You only need it for ten minutes.

Actually if you can find any thing with the correct thread you can grind a couple slots in the threads and use it to chase the threads.

good luck
Bill

Re: h14, very old, rudder casting problems [Re: h16bill] #18975
04/27/03 10:57 PM
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You can also just bungee the rudders down and sail it the way it is. Almost every rental boat I've seen doesn't have working cams.

cheers
Bill


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