| US Alter Cup - 2009 #193684 10/16/09 08:13 AM 10/16/09 08:13 AM |
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | The Vipers are being assembled at Clearwater Communtiy Sailing Center, participants arrive Sat/Sun with racing all next week. It'll be interesting to see how the Viper F16 is received by the fleet. It has been reported that Fun in the Sun (US distributor for AHPC) has sold 19 Vipers since last October - pretty good sales in a tough economy. Other info: US Sailing site: http://championships.ussailing.org/Adult/USMHChampionship.htmHost yacht club: http://www.clwyc.org/Host site: http://www.clearwatercommunitysailing.orgSchedule: October 17 1300 - 1600 Practice racing 1200 to 1700 Check in 1800 Skippers meeting and drawing for first races October 18 - 22 1025 1st warning, More races to follow No warning signal after 1500 on October 22 It should be fun to watch.
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#193694 10/16/09 08:53 AM 10/16/09 08:53 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Debbie and I will be spectating at least one day. Anyone else?
Is there a spectator boat? I emailed the host club, but no response yet.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Pete, you might volunteer to help out on a crash boat for a day, they might need help and you'd have a front row seat.
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Posts: 5,525 | The ladies (Newberry/Newberry)get another bullet! I can hear the cussin' from here, "frickin' F16 class needs a minimum weight"!! Two smallish ladies (or one old fat man)have as much chance as anyone else. I think it's a good thing.
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#194067 10/21/09 04:26 AM 10/21/09 04:26 AM |
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Posts: 120 | Big boys.... 150kg+ Lighter... 120kg
But it's realitive.
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Posts: 5,525 | Rolf: I sail about 105 kg. Uni, and have a difficult time driving over 15 knots. The spin sets and take downs are tough, but at that weight a heavier puff will stand me on my nose. I must be hyper alert, no margin for error. Conversely, in the 6-8 knot range, I can easily fly a hull down wind*. When that happens the two man (around 150 kg) crews just can't keep up. It isn't skill on my part, just physics.
Sailing uni in heavy air requires extraordinary skill, we mortals spend lots of time swimming. Surely, the very light crews will have the same problem.
*It's very relaxed, nothing I can't recover from.
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Posts: 548 MERRITTISLAND, FL | Rolf: I sail about 105 kg. Uni, and have a difficult time driving over 15 knots. The spin sets and take downs are tough, but at that weight a heavier puff will stand me on my nose. I must be hyper alert, no margin for error. Conversely, in the 6-8 knot range, I can easily fly a hull down wind*. When that happens the two man (around 150 kg) crews just can't keep up. It isn't skill on my part, just physics.
*It's very relaxed, nothing I can't recover from. I think a lot of people remain fixated on weight as a left over from the old 80's mdel non-spin boats. It is not that big of a deal on the new boats (Within reason) Boat handling is way more important than weight. When I sail heavier, I can push the boat so much harder- especially off the wind. M | | | Re: US Alter Cup - 2009
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Oh no, what have I started I am not worried or fixated on weight, I was just curious about where Brett defined lightweight and heavyweight. I agree that crew weight was far more important before we got spis and hulls with more bouyancy far down. Even the Tornado with its narrow hulls tolerated 200kgs crew weight quite well when it got a squaretop and spi.
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Rolf: I sail about 105 kg. Uni, and have a difficult time driving over 15 knots. The spin sets and take downs are tough, but at that weight a heavier puff will stand me on my nose. I must be hyper alert, no margin for error. Conversely, in the 6-8 knot range, I can easily fly a hull down wind*. When that happens the two man (around 150 kg) crews just can't keep up. It isn't skill on my part, just physics.
Sailing uni in heavy air requires extraordinary skill, we mortals spend lots of time swimming. Surely, the very light crews will have the same problem.
*It's very relaxed, nothing I can't recover from. Sailing uni IS harder, but a bit of practice can help; I'm around 75kg and start to really struggle about about 20kts. BUT I have been sailing uni for about 10 years now! Itis not just weight! Sailing single handed is different than with a crew; you need to plan ahead more!
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Posts: 5,525 | "Itis not just weight!" Agreed.
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Posts: 586 Hobart, Tasmania, Oz. | It should be fun to watch.
Is there any online coverage? photos? video? anything?? all those websites go around in circles.
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Posts: 5,525 | It should be fun to watch.
Is there any online coverage? photos? video? anything?? all those websites go around in circles. http://www.thebeachcats.com/index.php?module=pictures&g2_itemId=67619
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