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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: ksurfer2] #193259
10/12/09 12:50 PM
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Morrelli lets it slip..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08kbdOmrY-0

Curved boards too!


Paul

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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: TEAMVMG] #193464
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saw the design today at Nacra Europe - very very nice / spectaculare

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Nacrasailor] #193465
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pics or it didn't happen. Some dude on SA is insisting that its being built at Nacra US.

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #193466
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that might be, but I'm just teling you what I saw on a computer screen today

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Nacrasailor] #193467
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SO what did it look like?

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Tony_F18] #193469
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$10 says an infusion-esque hull modified and stretched to 20' - aluminum mast with a double spreader rig...and curved daggerboards. Current Nacra rudder system with the current infusion rudders.


Jake Kohl
Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Jake] #193470
10/14/09 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jake
$10 says an infusion-esque hull modified and stretched to 20' - aluminum mast with a double spreader rig...and curved daggerboards. Current Nacra rudder system with the current infusion rudders.

codename: Confusion 20


Philip
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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: P.M.] #193471
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Hey Nacrasailor,
What is your name and where do you live?


Philip
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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: P.M.] #193474
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My name I Michael and I live [+sail] here in Scheveningen, The Netherlands, about 5 minutes [by bike] from the harbour were Nacra Europe is

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Nacrasailor] #193484
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I think I read JC's blog about sailing an M20 with curved boards.

Since they're fixed (with respect to angle of attack) does that cause big issues on the transition(s) (up/down)?

I think they have adjustible banana boards on the giant multis now to avoid the pop-up/drive-down stuff...?


Jay

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #193679
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Nacra dealers will be informed today, I'll see if I can get a copy

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Nacrasailor] #193775
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Press Release - 16-10-2009 – for immediate release

Nacra is proud to announce the upcoming launch of its new flagship, the NACRA F20 Carbon. This latest addition to the Nacra range is a new high performance 20 ft catamaran.

Peter Vink, head of the development team: “ The whole development team is very proud to share the first information about the new Nacra F20 Carbon. We have been working with the best-of-the best in the maritime industry to ensure that this is truly a “king of the beach” boat. It will be bigger, wider and faster than anything in-or outside its class”. Although nicknamed “Babyzilla” by the team, it will still be a boat that can be sailed by the local club racer and be able to win at it’s first outing at the club race.

Peter Vink:”We took all the best features and characteristics of our current F18 Infusion, which has won the last two F18 Worlds, and applied it to the new boat, as an example: the rudder system, mast extrusion, beams and some other small bits and pieces, this way we have proven technology on the new F20 Carbon”.

The development was done by world renowned designers, Morrelli & Melvin for hulls, Nils Bunkenburg, A cat guru for the foils, Performance Sails for the rig & sails combined with the in-house knowledge at Nacra.

Development and testing has been underway for over 18 months, 2 boats were fitted with both straight daggers and with foils to allow the team to compare; a third boat, a Nacra 20 was fitted with the wide beams and the new rig. The 3 test platforms allowed the development team to test in the real world without revealing to much about this new boat, so they could adjust and fine-tune the design.

A variety in masts, mast hardware positioning and different sail cloth and shapes has been tested. The new hull shape which has been created, starting with a wave piercing bow forming a diamond shape hull stretching backwards into a “square-ish” transom, is of mayor importance due to the combination with the curved daggerboard. Although the basic shape was chosen, several adjustments were made driven by new technology [computer fluid dynamics] and knowledge which was gathered by Melvin & Morrelli while working on the Americas Cup project for BMW ORACLE.

Pete Melvin:”It is not a coincidence that the hull shape of the new F20 Carbon shows resemblance with the floats of the AC boat, we were able to take the knowledge we gained at the AC project and scale it down to the F20 Carbon. The most noticeable and distinctive feature is the chine that runs from the bow backwards on the hull allowing the water to flow away from the hull. Combining the chine and wave piercing bow with the upper deck shape reduces drag piercing through the waves both upwards and downwards”.

Regular production will start any moment and the first boats will be ready to be delivered to the customers in the first months of 2010.

Please see attached document for technical data

New Nacra 20 footer specs

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: pitchpoledave] #193777
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10.5' wide? Does it come with tilt trailer options?

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #193782
10/17/09 10:38 AM
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I sail a N20 one design, so I asked If I couls still use my old trailer, they said that they are working on a tilt trailer options and a conversion kit for "normal"trailer

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: pitchpoledave] #193783
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Cool!

I wish them the best on this project. It sure looks like a winner!!!

Bob wink


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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Bob_Curry] #193788
10/17/09 11:30 AM
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Wow!! Fully sic...cant wait to see one go.


Aido
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Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Bob_Curry] #193789
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so this is the spec for any F20?

[Linked Image]

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: Herbie53] #193794
10/17/09 11:56 AM
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I don't like how Nacra keeps calling its boats FXX to confuse people. There is no such thing as a Formula 20 or Formula 17 box rules. There are Formula 18 (the infusion is a nice Nacra representative of the class) and Formula 16 box rules. F17 and F20 don't mean squat these days (yes, there used to be some try to make a Formula 20 class, but it fizzed out).

Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: pepin] #193799
10/17/09 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by pepin
I don't like how Nacra keeps calling its boats FXX to confuse people. There is no such thing as a Formula 20 or Formula 17 box rules.


It could be worse, they could have called it "Nacra B Class", which would (further) complicate any attempt to revive the B Class.


Luiz
Re: New Nacra 20 footer? [Re: pitchpoledave] #193802
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Originally Posted by pitchpoledave

Pete Melvin:”It is not a coincidence that the hull shape of the new F20 Carbon shows resemblance with the floats of the AC boat
[Linked Image]

I cant see any resemblance to DogZilla, or is it just me?

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