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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: rhodysail] #198128
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I did not mean any of this to go this way. Please delete it!!! I mean the whole thread!!! Can I do this? I would hate to delete first part and have all the rest hanging out there.

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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Dan_Delave] #198129
12/03/09 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
I did not mean any of this to go this way. Please delete it!!! I mean the whole thread!!! Can I do this? I would hate to delete first part and have all the rest hanging out there.


Give it a shot. See what happens. I think if you delete the first post the thread will delete. If not you probably need to delete each one individually and everyone else will have to follow.

Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: rhodysail] #198130
12/03/09 09:45 PM
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I am still watching Transformers 2, so I can't keep up on all this reading.......am I taking it in the shorts again?

Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: rhodysail] #198131
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Sorry tried to delete and this is what I get:

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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Dan_Delave] #198132
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Originally Posted by Dan_Delave
Sorry tried to delete and this is what I get:

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Same here

Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: rhodysail] #198133
12/03/09 10:12 PM
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PM Mary or Rick White, they should have admin access and can remove threads off the forums.

Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Robi] #198136
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Mary and Rick,
If your going to exercise censorship to kill this thread, dispose of the Drill Baby Drill thread while your at it!


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: ] #198138
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Originally Posted by xanderwess
I am still watching Transformers 2, so I can't keep up on all this reading.......am I taking it in the shorts again?


Is Transformers 2 any good? I was kinda disappointed in the first one. But, then again, transformers were my younger brother's gig...I just missed that.


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Jake] #198139
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Transformers 2 - I give it a solid B. The cinematic style was a bit too frenetic for me. A six minute collage of 1/2-second shots... I saw it IMax and it gave me a headache. Rented it so I could give it a fair shake and I liked it better. The mother character was freakin' hysterical.


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: John Williams] #198140
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I prefer Liar, Liar with Jim Carey, or Tombstone, Val Kilmer style. "I'll be your huckleberry". (best line ever)

WTF? Are there billions of dollars or loss of life at stake here? Chill boys..... it is just sailing.


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: arbo06] #198141
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I just got censored for using the acronym for "why turkeys fly"
Next they'll take full syllables.


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: arbo06] #198142
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I really like the first transformers but the second annoyed me frown


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Re: Hobie Class Bylaws Committee shoots down Formula-18 prop [Re: Jeff_Bowers] #198143
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Originally Posted by Jeff_Bowers
Question that I have not seen answered?
How many Hobie only regattas still exist?


Quite a few on the West Coast.



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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Dazz] #198147
12/04/09 01:11 AM
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As a member of both Hca-na and NAF-18 I can see both sides of this argument. As a F-18 sailor I'd like to see more of our regattas count for F-18 points. As a one design sailor I like knowing its a equal playing field.

Speaking only for myself I think if the proposal was better drawn up then it may have passed.

The bylaws commision just did their job. The proposal violated the by-laws and the committee made those points.They are not the bad guys here.

Jeremy is one of the first to help another fleet. A-cats , Monos, Yacht club racing , Even the F-18 class. Just because he voted against the proposal he's not against F-18 racing. He has told me on several occasions if we get a F-18 race in norcal he'll run chase or committee for the event. He ran the Ditch this year following the fleet and bieng our designated safety boat.

I was at the Divisional AGM and the proposal was not well met be alot of the members in attendance. The Tiger fleet was 50/50 split from the members I have talked to in Div 3. We are looking at the 3 regatta policy for open boats. One of which may be the Santa Cruz race. (put on by Jeremy and SCYC)

Dan is doing a wonderful job in socal keeping F-18 fleet going strong. He was also a great resource for me on my tiger when I started this platform.

We shouldn't be arguing over this proposal and who's at fault. We should be looking at how to make it work.

Feel free to contact me via im or e-mail if you want.

Rich


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: F-18 5150] #198157
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Originally Posted by hobie18rich

Speaking only for myself I think if the proposal was better drawn up then it may have passed.


I think you will find that Rob is open to to friendly amendments.

Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Jake] #198158
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Originally Posted by Jake
First, I'm not interested or affected by the outcome. I'm not even questioning how it was derived or whether it was right or wrong. I'm no longer an HCA member and I no longer sail an F18.

While I agree that the underlying premise of the thread was probably to incite an emotion, I don't see anything that was not factual about it other than perhaps a misunderstanding about the inner workings of the HCA organization and the remote possibility that the findings of the bylaw committee may not be the final word.

I'm NOT taking any stance with regard to the outcome or how it was derived.

What I do find distasteful is the notion that such findings and ruling should be kept private for the sole reason that the people that made them don't have to suffer criticism. That's not how public democratic organizations should work. Publicly chastising the messenger instead of dealing with the message is also poor form.

There's too much emotion in here...Jake out.


Ya know , Jake, How ironic.

Everything you said in your last two posts, are pretty much exactly what the Demo majority house and senate has done to the the great people of this country recently. Ironic how you can support that, but then post this.


Let me get this straight, it's OK for the house and senate, but not OK for this? Typical warped mind of a liberal.


The tide is changing though


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: P.M.] #198159
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Originally Posted by mummp
Mary and Rick,
If your going to exercise censorship to kill this thread, dispose of the Drill Baby Drill thread while your at it!


What's the problem Phil?


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: Todd_Sails] #198161
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Point of order here, NO ONE has VOTED on ANYTHING yet.

For the record no one on the bylaws committee has a vote, the bylaws committee itself doesn't even have a vote.

A Proposal was discussed and forwarded to the bylaws committee.

The Bylaws Committee has published an OPINION on the proposal AS WRITTEN.

What happens going forward remains to be seen.

There is no place in this part of the process for blame.



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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: arbo06] #198162
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Originally Posted by arbo06
"I'll be your huckleberry". (best line ever)


+1


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Re: hyperbole and inaccuracies [Re: David Ingram] #198171
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Other than seeing Meagan Fox's boobs bouncing in slo-mo, I would say the movie was pretty dumb. I went and saw Ninja Assassins the other night and that was 1000 times better than we thought it would be. I am a Trek nerd and don't really 'get' transformers so maybe that's it.
Anyway, I don't think this thread is negative, and the more conversation the better for everyone (good bad or otherwise)
Just know that we have a process and this is what we (me, in this case) felt was the way to go by having the bylaws people dig and come up with a recommendation. The group is pretty geographically diverse: Canada, CA, OK, and Florida, so they all have different perspectives and this is what they recommended the board take into consideration.
Back to movies: As far as cowboys movies go, I am going with Rustlers Rhapsody and 3:10 to Yuma as my favorites. Any movie where Andy Griffith is the bad guy is good.

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