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standing on hulls #20215
06/03/03 01:23 AM
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I have a crew that likes to stand on the hull of my H16 while sailing. Is that ok for the pylons and hulls? I'm not sure how they're held together but by standing on the hull is it trying to pull the hull away from the pylon. The hull is usually out or just barely in the water when he's doing this.

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Re: standing on hulls [Re: nova] #20216
06/03/03 09:51 PM
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Unless the boat has soft spots it shouldn't hurt a thing.

I walk on mine all the time. Out to the bow when landing etc.

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Bill

Re: standing on hulls [Re: nova] #20217
06/05/03 06:30 AM
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sorry bill i dont agree. The hobie 16 has a big problem with soft spots!!! This is due to people standing on the hull and it normaly happens just in front of the pylons. If you have a good boat and want to keep it for a long time dont let him/she walk there, spread the weight if you have to. In terms of the hull pulling away from the pylon well all i have to say is dont worry about it, they are built like a tank just like my ford(EA).

Well have fun sailing.

Jules


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Re: standing on hulls [Re: Jules_topcat] #20218
06/05/03 08:44 PM
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Here in the states 1979 hulls had the worst problems with soft spots. Some 1981's are starting to have problems but not as bad as the 79's. I have had 7 hobie 16's since 1983 (81, 86, 93, 94, 97, 99, 2000) no problems with soft spots. My step father still has my original 81. I might not walk on that one but it's 22 years old!!!! I personally haven't seen any delamination on 84 and newer 16s.

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Bill

Re: standing on hulls [Re: h16bill] #20219
06/09/03 08:42 AM
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Sorry but what yours point? also how well were the boats taken care of.


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Re: standing on hulls [Re: nova] #20220
06/09/03 11:15 AM
06/09/03 11:15 AM
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Go ahead and stand on it! We're talking about a Hobie 16 here, a fun boat that you don't need or want to coddle like an "A" Cat. If it gets soft there's lots of real easy ways to fix it.

I bought my boat new in 1982. It's seen 20 years of very hard sailing and considerable deck-standing, lying upon, and other things we won't mention here. It's still competitive and very solid.

The biggest thing is to never store it with water in the hulls and with the drain plugs in. This is the primary cause of the delamination which results in soft spots. I made this mistake several years ago but it was easily fixed, and now a linebacker could jump up and down on my decks without denting them a nanometer.


Gary Montcalm Shreveport Yacht Club Hobie 16 #548
Re: standing on hulls [Re: garym] #20221
06/09/03 10:13 PM
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Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I'm not worried about the hulls and soft spots. I was concered about standing on the hull while flying a hull. It's in the air and he's standing on it to get out farther without using a trapeze. I was wondering if it's pulling the hull away from the pylon.

Re: standing on hulls [Re: nova] #20222
06/09/03 10:46 PM
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Nova,

Standing on the hull below the sidebar? No problem. On a Hobie 16, that hull is fully supported by the shroud wire for one thing... No problem. You put weight on the hull all you are doing is unloading the tramp. The weight on the hull is virtually the same because the tramp is also riding on the hull. Also, the pylons connection between the hulls and the trampoline is very solid. Even if the hulls were just hanging from the trampoline frame it would support plenty of weight without problem.

As far as delamination issues there... the area along the rail, that you could stand on, is solid glass. No foam.

In other areas that have foam... just be somewhat careful. Compression, heat, moisture, bad foam, bad resin and other things could cause delamination. Seems like the really hot areas have more problems. I have had plenty of 16s which I walked on, sat on, layed on without problem.

If you do get a soft spot in the deck forward of the front pylon, you have to get it fixed before sailing. There is allot of stress there from the bridles pulling in on the bows while sailing.


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