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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: pgp] #203381
02/14/10 01:12 PM
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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203382
02/14/10 01:17 PM
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Congrats BMWO

Well deserved win.

Wouter


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Wouter] #203383
02/14/10 01:21 PM
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So...should we all be looking into building wings? ;^)

I would like to see Ben Halls get more on the water testing, maybe with a taper towards the top like BMWO's, maybe a mid wing slot with a better camber adjusting system?


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203385
02/14/10 01:32 PM
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if you were listening to Randy, the cheaper yet effective next step up in performance is the curved daggerboards.
and I'd guess the ability to "Cant the rig" would be another performance enhancing mod that might be applicable to a boat that joe sixpack could someday hope to afford.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: MUST429] #203386
02/14/10 01:36 PM
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Unfortunately my internet provider did not allow me to listen to ESPN360.

I would have loved to have heard what Randy had to say.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203387
02/14/10 01:39 PM
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I think you can get it on Jobson's site now...

Oops - not yet. Pretty sure you'll be able to later.

Cat guys are headed to ABYC later for beers and a replay.

Last edited by John Williams; 02/14/10 01:40 PM.

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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203389
02/14/10 01:42 PM
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I was really quite amazed by the errors in judgment by Team Alinghi.
I mean Really, drawing fouls in BOTH races prior to the start ?

but then, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised given the errors in judgment EB made off the water.

I am reminded of a couple of life's little truisms,

"The lawyer that represents himself has a fool for a client"
I Think EB should have let someone else drive the boat.

and

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"
I think that EB has so much money and so much power that there was no one in his circle of familiars that could make him see that he was making SERIOUS errors in judgment.

Forcing it to a DoG match = Error
Losing in court time after time = Error x 11 at last count
Failing to upgrade to a wing = Error
Helming and judgment errors on the water = Error X at LEAST 3 or 4 that were obvious even to me.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: John Williams] #203390
02/14/10 01:43 PM
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Thanks JW.

Have one on me...

OH... and don't forget it's Valentine's Day!

If Mamma ain't happy, nobody's happy!

I already filled that square yesterday, so I could sit at the computer for hours today, watching the match.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203391
02/14/10 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Thanks JW.
Have one on me...
OH... and don't forget it's Valentine's Day!
If Mamma ain't happy, nobody's happy!
I already filled that square yesterday, so I could sit at the computer for hours today, watching the match.


Me too, Dinner, Movie, Flowers, Candy and a Card.
She even sat and watched most of it with me this morning.
:::::Sigh::::: Life is Goooooooood.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: MUST429] #203403
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I wonder if the 360 commentaries will be available? Can somebody post if they become avaiable?

Email sent to Gary:

Mr. Jobson,

I hear that you and Randy did an outstanding job on your commentary for the America's Cup races. Unfortunately my ISP does not carry the ESP 360 broadcast and I had to listen to the Official AC33 commentary. Are there plans to make your commentary available to the general public? I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of the broadcast, as I know others would from the blogs on the Cat Sailor forum.

Regards,

Mike Shappell

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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203404
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Mamma sat with me watching the race today - and was as enthralled with it as I was - well almost grin

Tim, your cousin is on the Sailing Club committee with me this year - her maiden name is Bohan, and her father is from Carrick on Shannon !


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Dermot] #203405
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Originally Posted by Dermot
Mamma sat with me watching the race today - and was as enthralled with it as I was - well almost grin
...and mine did as well.

Here is where I'll throw in a huge "thank you" to Jake for piquing my interest in something I previously had absolutely none.
Thanks Jake for your hours of posts, glad the racing turned out so damned exciting. smile


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Dermot] #203410
02/14/10 06:15 PM
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Dermot, tell her I said HI! And you can give her my email too, maybe we are cousins for real?

One of my 3 sisters did go over to visit the homeland back about 20 years ago, and she did find some of our cousins in Carrick, so ask her if she met a Jannet Bohan back then.

Thanks!

Time for a Guinness I think...


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203411
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My wife slammed the door to my office when I was watching it because I was yelling at the damn computer screen. I was soo worked up over this event and I've never wanted a team to win so badly as I wanted BMWO to win this one - if nothing else than to just stop the lawyering.

Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: ThunderMuffin] #203413
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SNG race committee goes on strike against start.Anybody else hear about this. Just reiterates the entitlement Alinghi thought they had. Scroll to Part 59.
http://bit.ly/b32KXU #


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #203415
02/14/10 07:21 PM
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I just read that it is hard to believe. I did see some cameras on Bennentt in the RC boat and he was pushing the them away a little before the start

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Yep,
I saw that too. I figured he was just stressed because of normal race decisions,now I know why.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Timbo] #203427
02/14/10 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Last I heard Larry wants to do it on San Fransico Bay, have not heard what type of boats, but SF Bay is known for high winds and I'm not sure his wing mast will fit under the bridge, so I doubt it will be on Dogzilla, although I would love to see that thing go in 20 knots of breeze!


The San Francisco Bay is one of the best sailing arenas anywhere, for both sailors and spectators. I really hope the Cup comes; it would be a real treat and allow more spectating than any other venue I can recall. "High winds" are a relative thing--Summer afternoons to see 25+, nasty currents and square wave in the Slot. Many different types of boats--especially in the hands of pro sailors--would do just fine. Conditions in the Fall and Spring are often more moderate, both in terms of air temp and breeze. GGYC would be a great place to bring it home too.


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: ejpoulsen] #203446
02/15/10 07:27 AM
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Did you guys hear this!? SNG's race "committee" aboard the PRO / start boat refused to start the race yesterday citing that the waves were over 1M. Harold Bennett, PRO, enlisted Tom Ehman (BMWO's representative on the boat) and the security officer on the boat to hoist the flags while Bennett ran the start clock while SNG's people refused to start the race.

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/


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Re: America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #203449
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
SNG race committee goes on strike against start.Anybody else hear about this. Just reiterates the entitlement Alinghi thought they had. Scroll to Part 59.
http://bit.ly/b32KXU #


Jake

I guess you missed Todd's post about 4 above yours. Are you skim reading again ?

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