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Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 #204146
02/23/10 02:14 AM
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Read on Darren Bundocks Twitter: “Took line honours sailing the Viper F16 in the Botany Bay Marathon. Smashed all the F18's and bigger boats. Great race in 18 knts.”

Does anyone know something more about the Botany Bay Classic?
Pictures of Darren sailing the F16?


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Kathleen] #204150
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Pictures or it didn't happen.


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Aido] #204164
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Quote

Pictures or it didn't happen.



That is %^#@# right !

I want to see that before I believe it.

Wouter


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Wouter] #204168
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According to Bundy his girlfriend (Carolijn Brouwer) finished 1st overall on handicap on a Taipan 4.9.

Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Wouter] #204184
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Originally Posted by Wouter
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Pictures or it didn't happen.



That is %^#@# right !

I want to see that before I believe it.

Wouter


Do you think Darren would need to make up a statement like that, Or could we just say it happened.
I have it on very good authority it did happen and they both had a blast
The course had a lot of reaching in it, That's why the taipan went so well

Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: self_inflicted] #204189
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Nope we need proof.
Your authoritar is not enough.


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: self_inflicted] #204192
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Pictures would really be nice. Any time F16s kick butt I want to revel in it.


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: pgp] #204219
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It happened.... they where on my boat!!!

Andrew Williamson was crew.

Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Brett Goodall] #204252
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Sweet! grin


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Kris Hathaway] #204292
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To be fair, its like giving Micheal Schumacher a vw golf and Mr Magoo a F1 racer... guess who is going to win?

Bundy is a hell of sailor, good luck catching him in anything he sails!


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Dazz] #204297
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True, but look at it from this perspective :"what if mr D. did not win while sailing the Viper F16 ?".

I'm quite sure that the cause for it would have been laid solely at the craft and not mr. D.

Therefore I'm very pleased with this result. It may be just another proof of how capable the F16's are in skilled hands, but still much more preferable over the alternative !

Not to mention that the F16 network has just been expanded with a very famous sailor. That can only have positive effects in the long run.

Wouter

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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Wouter] #204299
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Results are online so it must have hppened . cool
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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #204342
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I just saw that Steve Brewin sailed his A-cat in the bouy race section of the event; I call that equal competition to Brouwer and Bundy !

Besides Brouwer was sailing against Bundy as they were on different boats. Interesting detail is that Brouwer sailed with Eggl who is Andrew Williams girlfriend. A bit incestious these crew combinations ! grin

Excellent video's by the way of these crews doing the rump on the C2 F18 and Viper F16 !

Great development for the F16 class !

Much thanks to whoever arranged for this !

I'm a believer now !

Wouter

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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Wouter] #204373
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Excellent. Moving pictures. I'm a believer now too. Great for the f16 class especially here in Australia.


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Aido] #204458
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Question is, if Bundy was on a C2, whould he have been quicker. Bundy is a hell of a sailor. The Viper is also a hell of a boat but I would imagine the C2 would be quicker again, but not by much. Good to see Bundy having a play on the Viper. Would love to see more sailors on them.

Saw the Goodalls (Viper) up against the Brewins (Capricorn) at forster a few years ago. Racing was very close between them with the Cap taking hounours each time. Greg's comments were "there is not a lot in it, but the F18s are still a bit quicker."


Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #204467
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So you have begun to study metaphysics. If Bundy was on the C2 and the Viper at the same time, which Bundy would prove faster: That is your question.. Only solution is to put him in Schrödinger's box and set him adrift. He will still be faster but not for long wink


I'll go and do some more boatbuilding..

Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #204470
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Lets expand this experiment and also introduce a Viper that is build at minimal F16 weight (minus 20 kg) ! Maybe that would be enough to fully equalize things ?

But no matter the outcome, even the fact that there is very little in it is an excellent result. Afterall the Cap and C2 were/are the most developped F18's at the time. Back then (race against Brewins) the Viper was still a prototype.

Wouter


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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Wouter] #204482
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all seems very futile.. Yes I know its all about feeling good..

BUT

We aren't competing for F18 sailors.. We have our own niche.. Lets remember that..

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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #204508
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Originally Posted by Rolf_Nilsen
Only solution is to put him in Schrödinger's box and set him adrift. He will still be faster but not for long wink


I'll go and do some more boatbuilding..


Nice double there Rolf......

But would THAT cat fit in that box....

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Re: Botany Bay Classic > Darren Bundock sailing a F16 [Re: Stewart] #204522
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Originally Posted by Stewart
all seems very futile.. Yes I know its all about feeling good..

BUT

We aren't competing for F18 sailors.. We have our own niche.. Lets remember that..


Totally agree.


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