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upgrading tiger rudders #203758
02/18/10 01:53 AM
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Whats involved in changing to the new style rudders? What parts and how much labor is involves and what materials will I need?


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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: F-18 5150] #203759
02/18/10 01:57 AM
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I think DeLave went through that conversion - good resource.


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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: John Williams] #203816
02/18/10 12:26 PM
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Thanks John.


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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: F-18 5150] #203876
02/19/10 01:47 AM
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I did that conversion on my Tiger. Was dead easy - had to drill 2 holes per gudgeon casting (4 of the 6 bolted straight up). Just a word of warning, check the bolts/nuts are tight periodically, one of mine worked loose and allowed the gudgeon casting to move ever so slightly which was enough to end in catastrophe at the worst possible moment. I epoxied the bolts in with the repair and have had no problems since smile

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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: C2 Mike] #203877
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Originally Posted by TigerMike
enough to end in catastrophe at the worst possible moment.
Michael


Is there ever a best possible moment for catastrophe? smile


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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: Dazz] #203918
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I had no problem installing the rudders. You need the new gudgeons to allow the rudders a bit more room. I like the set up but have heard from others that they see no difference. I thought it was much easier to sail.

My boat with the newer rudders are owned by Benj in Canada. If you need to see it working you can take a look at his boat if you are at a regatta with him soon.

As I remember it took several times on the boat to get the rudders exactly right, but it was easier to balance than the old rudders, for me.

Later,
Dan

Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: Dan_Delave] #203934
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Thanks all
I'm trying to get the new system. Wanted to know what was involved. So just take the old gudgeons off and some of the holes are reused and some need to be re drilled.
Got it hopefully things go well.
Rich


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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: Dazz] #204009
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Originally Posted by Dazz
Originally Posted by TigerMike
enough to end in catastrophe at the worst possible moment.
Michael


Is there ever a best possible moment for catastrophe? smile


Normal club race: No biggee.
When doing well in a State championship: Major annoyance!

Mike

Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: C2 Mike] #204135
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Originally Posted by TigerMike
Originally Posted by Dazz
Originally Posted by TigerMike
enough to end in catastrophe at the worst possible moment.
Michael


Is there ever a best possible moment for catastrophe? smile


Normal club race: No biggee.
When doing well in a State championship: Major annoyance!

Mike

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Re: upgrading tiger rudders [Re: Dan_Delave] #204296
02/25/10 03:37 AM
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It's a very sore point. I didn't have a good State Titles last year.

Mike


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