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Re: safety line [Re: Jake] #218837
09/03/10 11:48 AM
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With some creative thinking and rigging, a safety line could be rigged to not only keep you attached to the boat, but also to deploy a small anchor or sea anchor. Around here (FL) most of the sailing we do is done in quite shallow water. 50' of small diameter line on a jet ski anchor should stop of drastically slow your boat if you get seperated. For deep water a sea anchor could probably slow the boat enough to allow you to catch back up to it, and keep the pressure off the teather.


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Re: safety line [Re: ksurfer2] #218839
09/03/10 01:19 PM
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Adding weight to a catamaran is about as popular as a turd in a punchbowl.


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Re: safety line [Re: P.M.] #218840
09/03/10 02:49 PM
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Put down the donut Phil...just walk away. you don't need to add any weight to your catamaran.


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Re: safety line [Re: Capt_Cardiac] #218841
09/03/10 03:20 PM
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Joe, I'm down 15# so bring your game and RED to Juana's. . . . (sorry for the hijack. Back to tethers.)


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Re: safety line [Re: P.M.] #218845
09/03/10 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mummp
Joe, I'm down 15# so bring your game and RED to Juana's. . . . (sorry for the hijack. Back to tethers.)

hijack on...

you would, of course, have to show up and race Phil- as opposed to just talking about it
laugh

Last edited by PTP; 09/03/10 08:24 PM.
Re: safety line [Re: P.M.] #218852
09/04/10 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mummp
Joe, I'm down 15# so bring your game and RED to Juana's. . . . (sorry for the hijack. Back to tethers.)


down 32# here ;-)

Re: safety line [Re: erikcole] #218856
09/04/10 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by erikcole
Aren't some older boats set up that if you fall off they will head up wind and stop?
Any beachcat properly setup with slight weather helm should head up. Biggest problem is that beachcats can move pretty damn fast while capsized. "Never let go of the sheet, main or spin."

Of course, remember to let go of the tiller! shocked


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Re: safety line [Re: Kris Hathaway] #218859
09/04/10 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kris Hathaway
Originally Posted by erikcole
Aren't some older boats set up that if you fall off they will head up wind and stop?
Any beachcat properly setup with slight weather helm should head up. Biggest problem is that beachcats can move pretty damn fast while capsized. "Never let go of the sheet, main or spin."

Of course, remember to let go of the tiller! shocked


Or after the harness breaks, the tiller jams, and the boat recovers, less the skipper, don't ask me how I know. Lake Harrison, about three miles, chase boat at full speed.

Re: safety line [Re: H17cat] #218860
09/04/10 07:50 PM
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I have been thinking back about the separations I have had in 25 yrs... only one came without the boat going over and that was a N20 upwind on the trap in big waves when I bounced off the hook. For capsize, a simple line to keep attached to fast drifting boat would have been best. Something to keep up when the tramp windage is dragging the boat faster than you can swim with a life jacket.


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Re: safety line [Re: TeamTeets] #218861
09/04/10 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamTeets
I have been thinking back about the separations I have had in 25 yrs... only one came without the boat going over and that was a N20 upwind on the trap in big waves when I bounced off the hook. For capsize, a simple line to keep attached to fast drifting boat would have been best. Something to keep up when the tramp windage is dragging the boat faster than you can swim with a life jacket.


On the Nacra 20 you usually have about 10 critical seconds to remake contact with the boat if you go over in heavy winds (20+) before it orients into the wind and and it takes off on it's side. On lighter boats, A-cats F16s, etc....it's a done deal by the time you resurface on the water. I was separated from my A-cat for the first time earlier this year and was astonished at how quickly the boat accelerated away. When I went over, it was a roll-over coming around A-mark in about 12 or 14 knots of breeze and I just went off the back of the boat thinking no big deal - the boat would have to spin 180 to get the mast pointed into the wind before it could boogie. I hit the water swimming but didn't stand a chance. I was racing with a bunch of other boats so it wasn't a big deal - but it was surprising how quickly they can get away.


Jake Kohl
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