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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: BLR_0719] #219026
09/08/10 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BLR_0719
Originally Posted by Undecided
JC and I are stating P90X like... tomorrow.


Be sure to post pictures here of the progress. Banana hammock optional.


So, you're saying, I can either wear the bananna hammock, or NOT?

Wow Brett... never knew you would appreciate that view :P

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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: ThunderMuffin] #219030
09/08/10 01:49 PM
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I dare you



Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: BLR_0719] #219032
09/08/10 02:19 PM
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i UNdare you...

Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: ] #219034
09/08/10 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MN3
i UNdare you...


Hush. You're ruining the experiment.



Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: BLR_0719] #219038
09/08/10 02:58 PM
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This tread is getting Offtrack and Disturbing.. between being high jacked with discussion of F16/F20 ratings... and the image of Tad in a Banana Hammock.... EEEhhhhUUUUU!!! Hope you are not chasing anyone away from CatFest...


Mark Williams
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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: David Ingram] #219077
09/09/10 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Sh*t's weak and MYOFB, geeze guys way to think it through.

Put your personal feelings for Mark aside for 2 minutes and read what he's saying. All he's saying is the brackets (provisional number) need to stay on until there is supporting data for the number and all that means is the F20 cannot be used at the Area Qualifiers for the Alter Cup. I for one am in 100% agreement with Mark on that point. The Area Qualifiers have their own issues and allowing boats to be used at a qualifier that have unsupported numbers is a bad idea.


Hey Ding,
Mark's my bud. I was just pushing his buttons.I realized a long time ago ,it's no sense arguing about ratings systems,except to have a few laughs.It's just like the make-up/ pig thing.


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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #219080
09/09/10 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Sh*t's weak and MYOFB, geeze guys way to think it through.

Put your personal feelings for Mark aside for 2 minutes and read what he's saying. All he's saying is the brackets (provisional number) need to stay on until there is supporting data for the number and all that means is the F20 cannot be used at the Area Qualifiers for the Alter Cup. I for one am in 100% agreement with Mark on that point. The Area Qualifiers have their own issues and allowing boats to be used at a qualifier that have unsupported numbers is a bad idea.


Hey Ding,
Mark's my bud. I was just pushing his buttons.I realized a long time ago ,it's no sense arguing about ratings systems,except to have a few laughs.It's just like the make-up/ pig thing.


Yep, the ratings argument will be a neverending debate, and almost always spirals downhill.
"It's like putting makeup on a Todd Hart."

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Trey
Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: MarkW_F18] #219085
09/09/10 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkW_F18
This tread is getting Offtrack and Disturbing.. between being high jacked with discussion of F16/F20 ratings... and the image of Tad in a Banana Hammock.... EEEhhhhUUUUU!!! Hope you are not chasing anyone away from CatFest...


This place has been lacking drama for some time anyway! ;-)


Jake Kohl
Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: Jake] #219087
09/09/10 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake
I'm there on the A


But you should be at North Cape Yacht Club at the A-Class North Americans dude smirk!

Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: Acat230] #219092
09/09/10 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Acat230
Originally Posted by Jake
I'm there on the A


But you should be at North Cape Yacht Club at the A-Class North Americans dude smirk!


I know...but I'm building a garage and needed to save my last week of vacation to knock out the wiring and plumbing before I can sub out the finish work.


Jake Kohl
Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: BLR_0719] #219093
09/09/10 09:35 AM
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The area qualifier eligibility issue is simply a red herring.

By decree it's a handicap regatta. Why? because it needs to include all of the active racers in the region to award slots.

So, .... to include ALL classes... you need a FAIR handicap system that includes ALL Classes... even those with just one or two active boats.

By tradition, we us the USPN system. The current USPN system... fails the fairness for all test!... If you have brackets around your class... you can't play.... more importantly... the fairness of the rating, once you have removed the brackets is suspect as well.

The solution for qualifiers... is to simply decree that the qualifiers will use SHCRS or TEXEL, two widely used measurement rating systems. My reading of the Area Championship requirements would allow you to do this by simply declaring your pick of the handicap system in the NOR.

The F20 has a fair measurement rating right now and if Mike wins a qualifier... it will be because he sailed his new boat close to it's rating more often then the rest of the fleet sailed their boat to their rating. End of discussion.

My previous comments are simple attempts to patch up the old USPN system by plugging the holes and putting some duct tape over the BS. Personally, times have changed... I believe that we should move on and adopt SCHRS or TEXEL. (Where is Carl Roberts in this discussion giving me **** for changing my position)



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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: MarkW_F18] #219095
09/09/10 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MarkW_F18
This tread is getting Offtrack and Disturbing.. between being high jacked with discussion of F16/F20 ratings... and the image of Tad in a Banana Hammock.... EEEhhhhUUUUU!!! Hope you are not chasing anyone away from CatFest...


All of this commotion and not a single additional participant on the entry list.

For all of those that have pre-registered, Tad has promised there will be no banana hammocks. Unfortunately, Brett and Trey have made no promises.

Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: drbinkle] #219099
09/09/10 10:10 AM
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The network I'm on won't let me open the links. Not pre-registered, but I'll be there.



Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: drbinkle] #219100
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Originally Posted by dbncsu



For all of those that have pre-registered, Tad has promised there will be no banana hammocks.


He lies.



Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #219101
09/09/10 10:16 AM
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gotcha.


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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: drbinkle] #219111
09/09/10 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dbncsu
Originally Posted by MarkW_F18
This tread is getting Offtrack and Disturbing.. between being high jacked with discussion of F16/F20 ratings... and the image of Tad in a Banana Hammock.... EEEhhhhUUUUU!!! Hope you are not chasing anyone away from CatFest...


All of this commotion and not a single additional participant on the entry list.

For all of those that have pre-registered, Tad has promised there will be no banana hammocks. Unfortunately, Brett and Trey have made no promises.


It's been a while since the participation list was updated. I let them know at the first part of the week I was coming but my name isn't on there. Expect more people than the list shows at the moment.


Jake Kohl
Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: Jake] #219121
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First peek of the boat on the trailer.

Only took two of us to lift and pin it in place.

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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: mikekrantz] #219122
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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: ksurfer2] #219126
09/09/10 01:22 PM
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Very NIIIIICE!!!! Hate to fall on top of one of those bows. It might just cut you in half.


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Re: Catfest - LNYC this weekend (Sept. 11-12) [Re: MarkW_F18] #219127
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they're actually bigger than they look in the photo. The graphic wrap he has on there distorts the optics a bit.

The sail is going to make you go into a trance when you see it :P

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