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CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS #219315
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Check SA's AC forum (for all the lamentations of the monosluggers) for the details.

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Re: CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS [Re: ThunderMuffin] #219318
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AWESOME!!
Apart from the AC72 there will also be AC45s, WITH WINGS!

Full text of the press release
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America’s Cup transformed by radical changes

New class of boat and annual series of racing among introductions

VALENCIA, Spain (September 13, 2010) – The America’s Cup, sailing’s most iconic event, has been re-energized and rejuvenated, ready for 2013 and the future.

The best sailors in the world will race on the fastest boats with the introduction of an exciting wingsail catamaran.
To build interest and audiences ahead of the 34th Match in 2013 is a new annual World Series, commencing in 2011.
A clear vision for the future led to analysis of the best practices in other major sports. Six months of dialogue with potential teams and stakeholders followed, resulting in the transformed competition details that were released today.

Highlights include:
 New, exciting class of boat, the AC72 wingsail catamaran
 New annual World Series starting in 2011
 New Youth America’s Cup from 2012
 Transformed media for television broadcast and online
 Shorter, action-packed race format
 Race delays minimized – new boat and venues with reliable wind
 Independent race management and fully empowered International Jury to avoid show-stopping disputes
 Effective cost-cutting measures
 Branding freedom for teams
 One global website for all team and racing content

The annual America’s Cup World Series has been designed to create exposure and commercial sustainability for teams and their sponsors. The series featuring the cutting-edge catamaran will deliver exciting racing to new audiences ahead of the America’s Cup Match in 2013.
The AC72 class will be raced from 2012, and a second new boat will be used in next year’s competition for the America’s Cup World Series. Also powered by a wingsail, the AC45 is a scaled down one-design version of the AC72, and will provide a fast-track for competitors in wingsail technology.
“We believe this new format and new boat will put the America’s Cup back at the pinnacle of our sport. These changes will give equal opportunity to competitors and long-term economic stability to all teams and all commercial partners. We promised fairness and innovation and this is what we’ve delivered,” said Russell Coutts, CEO of BMW ORACLE Racing.

The Regatta Director of the independent organization America’s Cup Race Management, ACRM, will be appointed jointly by the Challenger and Defender board members. A financial model for the next Defender to maintain this vision of independent race management allows teams and partners to plan long-term involvement.

“I think that we need to acknowledge that the Defender has kept its word. The America’s Cup is going to have fair rules and a truly independent management of the racing,” said Vincenzo Onorato, President of Mascalzone Latino.
“This change should’ve happened years ago in my opinion. I can see why this important development could last for many years in the future,” Onorato said.

Limits on the number of boats, sails, equipment and support boats, as well as the introduction of no-sail periods will bring significant cost savings for all competitors. Crew sizes will be reduced to 11 members from 17.

For the first time onboard cameramen will be part of the innovative media model that is designed to significantly enhance the television broadcasts and internet content in an effort to grow audiences and bring added value to teams and partners.

In releasing the Protocol, the Defender has forfeited some of the rights traditionally enjoyed by the holder of the trophy in the interest of making the competition more balanced and fair. Majority approval of the competitors is required to amend the Protocol.
“During our six months of planning we spoke to the teams, to commercial partners, to media and to the fans. A clear and compelling vision emerged – that to capture and communicate the excitement our sport can produce, we need the best sailors racing the fastest boat in the world,” Coutts said.
In an effort to develop the next generation of best sailors, the new AC45 will be used for the Youth America’s Cup beginning in 2012, a new initiative to provide young sailors a pathway to the America’s Cup.

With today’s release of the Protocol, class of boat and year in which the match will be held, three of the four cornerstones for the 34th Match are in place. The final piece, the venue, is scheduled to be announced by the end of the year.

Re: CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS [Re: Tony_F18] #219325
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I thought the announcement was due later tonight.


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http://www.americascup.com/features-stories/new-america%E2%80%99s-cup-era-begins-with-wingsail-catamaran/#AC34


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Re: CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS [Re: Jake] #219327
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Originally Posted by Jake
I thought the announcement was due later tonight.

Nope 1pm euro time (its 3pm here now), I was in a damn meeting when it was on! tired

Re: CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS [Re: Tony_F18] #219328
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What is this going to do to the extreme 40 class??? They got a really good thing going!


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What is this going to do to the extreme 40 class??? They got a really good thing going!


Hopefully training for the 45 monster with a wing !!


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Re: CONFIRMED AMERICA'S CUP 72 (AND 45!!) WINGED CATS [Re: ksurfer2] #219334
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Originally Posted by ksurfer2
What is this going to do to the extreme 40 class??? They got a really good thing going!


Rumor has it that one of the key players that put the Formula 40 thing together is involved with the new AC catamaran class.


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Is the AC45 class going to suck all the talent away from the extreme 40's? Effectively killing the class?


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"New, exciting class of boat, the AC72 wingsail catamaran"

What a brave move by them. I thought they would leave it open to a cat or tri.

So the guy who one the cup has to start from scratch with a design of a totally new boat. Pretty bold decision.

I wonder if they will be looking to the F18 and A class as a training ground for these boats. This could add tons of visability to these classes. Also could add lots of other issues that comes with the money and visability.

Quite a positive move for cats worldwide.



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 Shorter, action-packed race format
 Race delays minimized – new boat and venues with reliable wind


There's two great changes right there! This announcement is quite amazing to me, I had thought that because the last one was such a blow out, they might go back to monohulls, but this is really great news for development of wings on cats! I wonder if these guys watched that C cat regatta just before they made up their minds?

Ben Hall must be smiling ear to ear!



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Originally Posted by Timbo
 Shorter, action-packed race format
 Race delays minimized – new boat and venues with reliable wind


There's two great changes right there! This announcement is quite amazing to me, I had thought that because the last one was such a blow out, they might go back to monohulls, but this is really great news for development of wings on cats! I wonder if these guys watched that C cat regatta just before they made up their minds?

Ben Hall must be smiling ear to ear!



The decision was pretty much made by the time the C-class had the Little AC. That's why the who's who in the world of yacht design were onsite for the event.

I think something was also lost in the English translation of the "junior" event bit...I'm sure it's not an event for junior (read "young") sailors but is like a minor league to the America's Cup....and yeah, that probably means the end for the existing VX40s.


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 Shorter, action-packed race format
 Race delays minimized – new boat and venues with reliable wind

Hello!!! Can you say San Francisco? smile


Jake, I hope you're right. I can't imagine a team of kids on a 45-foot winged "mini" - monster...

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Kids are great crew, light, strong, fearless and best of all..expendable!

Ask anyone from Team Child Abuse!

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Originally Posted by Timbo
Kids are great crew, light, strong, fearless and best of all..expendable!

Ask anyone from Team Child Abuse!

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Both of the rendering look A LOT like the Nacra CF20 (with hard wings, ofc)

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Both of the rendering look A LOT like the Nacra CF20 (with hard wings, ofc)


Or the lingy cat.


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While I think doing it on cats is great, I also think using the wing is going too far.

Time will tell and it will certianly be interesting.


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Originally Posted by catman
While I think doing it on cats is great, I also think using the wing is going too far.

Time will tell and it will certianly be interesting.


It's going to make it exciting and interesting. There will be so many new technological facets to each team's approach. Pushing the technology will likely result in some drama too.


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Pretty sure they did mean "youth" - protocol was written in English!

From Fischers piece at Sail-world, questioning Coutts:
"In addition to the AC World Series there would be a Youth America's Cup from 2012. This would be held in the AC-45 catamarans, and while age limits have yet to be defined, the crew will have to be from the nation of its challenging yacht club."

Speculation is that they intend to set the limit at age 25


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