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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #229054
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You may not need more boats in Florida. I could use a few more up here. Especially F16 uni's grin

Also, it's the future of the sport that is the most dominant topic in the thread.


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: TEH] #229062
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We can always use more. But we have enough to have a good time so why worry?


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: pgp] #229064
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Maybe I just have a different mindset. I'd just like to see the sport grow and maybe be there for my kids.


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #229065
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... so you guys like the idea of targeting the 15-25 yr old group .... especially those that are sailing already???

You may want to look at the thread here on this forum ...

BBYRA(Barneget Bay Yacht Racing Assoc's) Junior Olympic Festival- July 25-26th .... it's about the inclusion of a "YOUTH MULTIHULL CLASS" being hosted at Island Hieghts Yacht Club (Island Hieghts NJ) .... last year at the CBYRA's JO Festival hosted at Rock Hall Yacht Club, Rock Hall Md. was the very first time that Junior Sailors racing on Multihulls was included ... now it's taken some work over the last 3-4 months ... but we have just procured an invitation (and a launching point) this year to the JO Festival held in NJ. This event has +300 boats in it ... and at first we were turned down .... but we didn't give up ....

You too can make something like this happen .... you just can not give up .... just keep trying ....

Harry

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All good points, Flatlander.

"Dwindling numbers was GenX" - I fit into that group, and amongst my peers there are very few with more than two kids. Many don't have kids at all (too busy, too expensive, "not my thing", too much sacrifice, etc).


Hope those numbers of Gen Y'ers will fill the waters... Only way to do that is to get out sailing. THe more of us out ther ehaving fun, the more people might be curious. They won't be curious about boats that just sit in the yard...


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: HMurphey] #229109
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Originally Posted by HMurphey
... so you guys like the idea of targeting the 15-25 yr old group .... especially those that are sailing already???

You may want to look at the thread here on this forum ...

BBYRA(Barneget Bay Yacht Racing Assoc's) Junior Olympic Festival- July 25-26th .... it's about the inclusion of a "YOUTH MULTIHULL CLASS" being hosted at Island Hieghts Yacht Club (Island Hieghts NJ) .... last year at the CBYRA's JO Festival hosted at Rock Hall Yacht Club, Rock Hall Md. was the very first time that Junior Sailors racing on Multihulls was included ... now it's taken some work over the last 3-4 months ... but we have just procured an invitation (and a launching point) this year to the JO Festival held in NJ. This event has +300 boats in it ... and at first we were turned down .... but we didn't give up ....

You too can make something like this happen .... you just can not give up .... just keep trying ....

Harry



Harry, good on Ya! What type of cats are they using?


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: Timbo] #229115
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Hi Timbo,

The Youth Multihull Class will compete using the H16 ... Hobie Div11 members have been very supportive of the JO Festival last year ... a free One-day "Quest Expert" clinic w/ a "chalk talk" followed by "on the water" racing drills ... provided "loaner" (not charter ... there is a difference) boats w/ insurance coverage provided by the HCA-NA. Mr Matt Bounds was the PRO last year and this year Mark Santorelli has volunteered to be the PRO, along w/ cat sailors providing the volunteers for Race Committee. We are planning/trying to follow the same format this year.

Now there are some details to work out w/ IHYC and SPYC yet ... I have been communicating to Mr Chris Wessels and Gordo of the HCA-NA ... and of course "Rondo" and members of Div11.

Now as the details are worked out I'll be posting the news ....

Harry
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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: HMurphey] #230024
03/21/11 10:24 AM
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This horse has been flogged a bit, but those Macca/Mischa videos have a combined views of over 7500, so I looked at the viewing statistics by country.

Here are the percentages for the USA, Europe and Australia repectively:

Age 35-44 17%, 45%, 50%
Age 45-54 57%, 27%, 25%

Not a sceientific poll, but Europe and Australia have more than double the USA 35-54 population. This suggests that the early family years and cost issues can be overcome.

I'd be interested in any comments by the Europeans or Austrailians on why they have had better luck with this younger demographic.


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: TEH] #230045
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you young punks just think you know everything, which is why you don't watch those videos! smile


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #232169
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Here is an update with perhaps some interesting information.

There are 14K views on the CRAW video series on YouTube. Again, assuming this is representative of the racing cat sailor population, there is a demographic difference between viewers in Europe and the USA (which make up the vast majority of viewers).

For the USA, the percentage of under age of 45 viewers is 28%. For Europe it's 48%.

The biggest differences are in the 35-44 age group - Europe 38% to USA's 20% and the 45-54 age group where it's USA-52% and Europe's 32%.

With the financial constraints on younger people being similar plus the internet, computer games, TV, etc. being available world wide, why do you think Euroope appears to have a younger cat sailing population?


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: Matt_Z] #232171
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This statement is right on! I am 47 years old. My dad bought a 16 in '81 and we learned together. He quit sailing and I moved on to bigger and faster boats. I am an extreme sport junkie. I still race BMX and DH. I do bicycle trials and dirt jumping. Age isn't an issue, its exposure! The adrenaline crowd today has no idea how fast and on the edge cat sailing can be because there is no exposure. Its not cost or time, to them its just not cool enough. I am around some of the most extreme folks you could ever meet and they think sailing is for old rich guys. If I had only lake sailed I think I would have no interest but I learned on the ocean, where the danger element is real. Thats what keeps me sailing!

Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: WindyHillF20] #232192
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A saying from an Old Guy,
"If you did know old you are, how old would you be?"

Keep sailing!


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Re: Cat Sailors - All Old Guys? [Re: TheManShed] #232554
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I think this will help if it AC get much press here in the states.

Youth's on AC Excitement


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