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Clearcoat suggestions #239210
10/20/11 07:35 PM
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What do you guys suggest for clearcoating over West System on carbon and/or standard epoxy fiberglass?


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





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Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: dave mosley] #239211
10/20/11 07:38 PM
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Dang I just noticed I have been on this site for over 10 years.


The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27





Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: dave mosley] #239212
10/20/11 08:08 PM
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Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #239220
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Read this, 6th post down. link


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Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: catman] #239225
10/21/11 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by catman
Read this, 6th post down. link


Good link. Great info.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: dave mosley] #239251
10/24/11 04:57 AM
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Dave,
I've used a water based product from System Three in the past, it's low tox and it brushes on easily. Throwaway foam brushes and lots of light coats work well.

http://www.systemthree.com/store/pc/WR-LPU-Topcoat-c29.htm

Bill

Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: dave mosley] #239259
10/24/11 09:30 AM
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I have used IMRON, Spies Hecker, Awlgrip, and various water based clear coats on masts, rudders and dagger boards. All work well over paint however, all have the same problem over epoxy/carbon or epoxy/glass. They are all basically UV transparent. The UV breaks down the epoxy at the epoxy/clear coat bond and the clear coat peels off. How long this takes depends on where you live. Spies Hecker lasts 7 plus years in Sweden and 2-3 in Houston.


There are a couple of solutions, they are not perfect. You can cover it. There are UV absorbers available for clear coat. (Upside, they will add years to the life of the clear coat. Downside, they change the clear coat to something ranging from cloudy to translucent grey. ) You can regularly wax the surface with a UV absorbing wax. This looks great over clear coat wood and seems to protect the epoxy. The only wax that I have tried that really works is bees wax based Breewax. I am sure there are others but I will let someone else experiment.

Personally I have learned to like white. The white IMRON is about 60% nickel. I don’t even bother to cover the white IMRON painted surfaces.

Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: carlbohannon] #239263
10/24/11 10:21 AM
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Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: carlbohannon] #239264
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I would probably just use a good urethane car clear coat. Might be cheaper and is very easy to repair or re-coat, sand, buff. The parts don't live in the water so that shouldn't be a problem.


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Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: bvining] #239282
10/24/11 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bvining
Dave,
I've used a water based product from System Three in the past, it's low tox and it brushes on easily. Throwaway foam brushes and lots of light coats work well.

http://www.systemthree.com/store/pc/WR-LPU-Topcoat-c29.htm

Bill


If that's what you put on your beams of the DK , I wouldn't suggest it. Didn't hold up very well.


"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: sail7seas] #239283
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"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"

The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea
Isak Dinesen
If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most.
E. B. White
Re: Clearcoat suggestions [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #239314
10/25/11 08:14 AM
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Just did some Cplate panels using Awlgrip 545 CLEAR primer with Awlcraft clear over the top. They came out absolutely beautiful! I never knew Awlgrip made clear 545 until last year. The 545 gives a great surface to block sand smooth and flat and with the Awlcraft topcoat on top it looks like its about 1/4" thick. Definitely the best high build clearcoat solution I have found. Awlcraft clear has UV inhibitors in it.


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