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Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239607
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well unless its winter i wanted something high off the water something to take home, not leave with marina, but i could leave it rigged somewhere!

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Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239632
11/02/11 07:41 AM
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If you can leave it rigged you'll get a lot more use out of it. The boat sails fine, no problems there. I saw that the guy that bought it came in 2nd in his class in the Buzzelli Regatta last year.
It's certainly high off the water, you'll stay dry most of the time.

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239635
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Well i am waiting for him to reply back to me, but its to bad it isnt a little bigger.. But i am thinking why do youhave to take the nets all the way off of this boat? when u have to move it to another location i dont understand that? I think i could figure something out to leave the nets on it! SO the boat is pretty fast then your saying, how long did you have this boat and when did it sit on trailor? I am wondering its a 1980 i hope there isnt and soft spots in the fiberglass!

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239637
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It's too wide for trailering.

The Reynolds at the Buzzelli raced in the High Portsmouth class on the small boat course, not with the Stiletto's.

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239638
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Don't know if you've seen this or not but there is a Stiletto 23 and a Reynolds 21 for sale here:

http://stiletto.wildjibe.com/cgi-bin/pgs-db.cgi?loc=http://stiletto.wildjibe.com/forsale/&database=forsale/forsale-db.txt

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239642
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Yes i ahve already been all over that site that is the Reynolds i am looking at. Well the boat once on the trailor comes together so that is why i am saying maybe the net doesnt have to come off all the way!

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239643
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I have a Reynolds 33, and lacing the tramp is 45 mins of the 2 hour assembly process.

No it can not be transported without removing the tramp.

Unless you have a place where you can store and ramp launch it fully rigged, you'll get tired of the process very quickly and loose interest in sailing the boat.

I tear mine down and travel with it several times a year, so I know what I'm talking about.

-Mike

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239647
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wonder if i can put wings on this R21? that would be cool very cool! SO tell me about this net thing, its bothering me, there has to be away like is it the pow and stern that the net goes through loops or something? i was thinking if the stern and bow poles come off then you can squeeze the hulls together on the trailor with net still connected. I havent seen this boat yet so i am thinking about it, AND how easy is the mast to go up?

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Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239662
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The tramp can stay mostly on the R21 for trailering, but all 3 beams are unbolted and removed when collapsing. So the front of the tramp is disengaged from the front beam( it's a bolt rope into a groove), and the rear is loosened and unhooked from the rear beam. The bitch is that the side lacing(1 side) needs to be substantially loosened as well to get the hulls far enough apart when reassembling to get the beam bolts started. So you don't have to completely thread the lacing, but you do have to fully tension both the side and rear lacing when the boat is put together. And this consumes over 45 minutes with 2 guys.
Realistically, if you can't find a place to at least keep the boat fully assembled on it's trailer, near water, neither the R21 or the S23 is gonna get sailed very often. They're just too much set up and tear down time for day sailing. It'll get old very fast. Again, with a buddy who knew the drill, the fastest we could get the Reynolds assembled from driving to the ramp, to sailing away, was 2 hrs. And we had quite a bit of practice.

Dave

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239663
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There's a R21 in the classifieds here that is from Minnesota. I'm about positive I know that boat. I haven't been on it, but its my ex-girlfriends-sister's-boyfriends-parents boat.....

I've never been on it or seen it up close, I've seen it on the water from a distance and that's about it. Its a 507 area code, and I can't imagine there's two of em' in a rural area code. If you need me to go look at it I can if you set it up. I'm about 20 minutes away from it.


I'm boatless.
Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239671
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if your gonna be a trailor sailor, pick a boat that is quick to set up. i drive 70 minutes to get to the beach so every minute it takes to set the boat up counts. i can set up my old prindle 16 in under 30 mins, logged over 70 outings over the past 3 seasons...could have upgraded many times but every extra thing cost valuable set up time...if i kept the boat at the club, i would go all out

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: carlbohannon] #239676
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Originally Posted by carlbohannon
If it makes a difference, a version of the Reynold's 21 is in production as the Z21.

http://www.wingzsailboats.com/z21cruisingcatamaran.htm

This means there will be some level of parts support.

I don't know the status of the company. There are questions about them being in buisness.


In looking at thier site I wonder what the Z18P and Z19P are.....Prindle maybe?

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239683
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I am on the way to pick mine up! it was Cheap and its my first Multi hull, i needed storage and beachable and fast boat, wanted something high off water also.. This boat looks clean hopefully it matches the pictures when i get there!

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239685
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Congradulations! Welcome to the club. Keep us posted.....

Dave

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239742
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if you get a chance subsribe to my YOUTUBE look up jtechie3 i will post a lot of movies soon but there are some out there now.. OH Thanks i will be soon a Multihuler
Any tricks on raisng mast and anything please share I am open to everyones comments!
I take this like camping, you have to put a tent up dont you ,? IT IS WORK?
thanks ALL!

Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #239759
11/05/11 12:10 AM
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These shots are of the gin pole on Chris Park's Reynolds 21, which has a SC20 mast(33'), and a boom.

The gin pole has a yoke that pins to the the mast thru a hole located at the widest point of the mast. Just forward of that is a standard small boat trailer winch. Chris currently has wire on this one, but I used a 7/16" line for years. This runs fwd to a block just aft of the pole tip.
A vertical slot, just slightly wider than the forestay diameter, is cut in the pole, which lands just above the nico press sleeve that secures the thimble that terminates the forestay.
The winch line terminates in a cast hook with a spring loaded keeper, and this snaps to a s.s. ring at the junction of the 2 bridle wires.
Also attached to the tip of the gin pole are 2 guy lines that clip to the ends of the main beam, stabilizing the pole in the centerline plane.
This system requires that the mast be likewise secured side to side to keep it in that same plane. This boat came with baby stays, attached just below the spreaders, that could be quickly transferred from their fwd chainplates to the beam ends(which have stout s.s loops welded to the end caps). Trapeze wires could work too. Or install something that could be used for this purpose and secured out of the way under sail.
So, with these secured, pin the yoke to the mast, slot the forestay, attach guy lines to beam ends, and clip the winch line to the bridle wires. With the side stays attached to their chainplates, engage the pawl on the winch and crank away. The mast crawls up with no drama, and the gin pole holds it up securely while the loosened forestay turnbuckle is pinned to the ring. Then the winch is released, gin pole removed and forestay turnbuckle tightened.
With all lines properly attached, this is easy and safe. But always be vigilant, the forces are big, and the consequences of mistakes are significant.
One advantage of this system(as opposed to one working off the trailer) is that the mast can be raised and lowered on the water, useful for bridges and negotiating ramps with overhead obstructions. For many years I kept the boat assembled full width on the trailer, and raised and lowered the mast each launch. Took about 10 minutes, up or down.

Dave

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Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #273117
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Well i have been sailing my Reynolds 21 now for 3 years now.. I have to say i am so glad i picked this boat! I have bout new sails for her last year this year i did a mod to my transom, i do believe i gain 2 knots! smile below is my fix

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Re: Reynolds 21 vs Stiletto 23 [Re: soulsailor] #273814
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So did anyone else buy a Reynolds ?

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