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Posts: 5,525 | What ratio do you use? If it's greater than stock, what is your rational?
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#239939 11/10/11 09:54 AM 11/10/11 09:54 AM |
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Posts: 713 WA, ID, MT | My Stealth has 7 to 1, which I think is stock, and I'm very happy with it. It runs free quickly, is plenty of power for sheeting in, and no miles of line on deck. The HT with 9 to 1, and the 22, with 12 to 1 have much more line to deal with, both to keep on the tramp, and the multiple pulls to sheet back in when playing the main.
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Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | 9:1 Ronstan Orbit blocks
New Vipers are coming with a Harken 10:1. I don't think the Harken is the best in this application, and I think 10:1 is too much line. I'd like to run a 8:1, but I'm too wimpy.
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#239948 11/10/11 01:13 PM 11/10/11 01:13 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | Have you ever had a problem UNDER sheeting?
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#239949 11/10/11 01:26 PM 11/10/11 01:26 PM |
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Posts: 439 Memphis, TN | Why in the hell do you need a 10:1 on an F16? I have a tendency to sheet too much with a 9:1 and I've debated in going to an 8:1 to help prevent it. I'm not bashing you Karl, you just happened to post this, I'm actually saying this to the forum as a whole. My setup is a 9:1 with a taper, and the taper makes all the difference in the world! I've ran it without and it SUCKS! period. Mike
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#239953 11/10/11 01:58 PM 11/10/11 01:58 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "Sheet too much" I thought that was almost impossible.
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#239955 11/10/11 02:08 PM 11/10/11 02:08 PM |
Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 242 Brisveagas Aido
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Posts: 242 Brisveagas | I have 7:1on my viper. I thought it was 8 but a loop was dropped out of it when i picked up the boat from AHPC. Im too lazy to fix it. But i have got used to it. You dont have to pull in as much sheet if you have to dump it at the top or bottom mark. Also i find that its easy to over sheet the main in light air and slightly less purchase helps to prevent this.
I definetly dont think you need 10:1. But maybe it would be the go when we all get too old to deal with the big air.
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#239956 11/10/11 02:13 PM 11/10/11 02:13 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Why in the hell do you need a 10:1 on an F16?
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Fatigue is your enemy. Many of us still have to work our own mains and I've even moved the cleat up so I can't cleat it from the wire (keeps me from getting lazy) so at the end of the day I'm still looking for extra purchase and I have 10:1 on my F18. Good news is I'm sailing more and more with crew that expects to get the main which is soooooo nice! Maybe I'll drop it to 8:1 cause all that sheet in my space is annoying. :-)
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#239957 11/10/11 02:24 PM 11/10/11 02:24 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | ratio is determined by simply counting the number of sheaves, yes? Assuming they're all the same diameter.
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#239961 11/10/11 04:28 PM 11/10/11 04:28 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | What ratio are you using? You sail 18 HT correct?
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#239966 11/10/11 05:04 PM 11/10/11 05:04 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | I use those same "H" blocks. Every few months I throw the whole mess, lines and all, into a tub of fresh water for a day or two. They come out feeling like new.
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#239967 11/10/11 05:08 PM 11/10/11 05:08 PM |
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn Karl_Brogger
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Posts: 4,118 Northfield Mn | Why in the hell do you need a 10:1 on an F16?
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Fatigue is your enemy. Bingo. For me I think the 10:1 is actually more of a fatigue inducer on an F16. Sheeting is easy, but you're working such a large quantity of line that it wears you out. For me the 9:1 is a nice balance. If I had the strength I'd be running an 8:1, but I'm working the piss outta the mainsheet going upwind. Its not so much that you can over sheet the main, as in too much tension, but how efficiently you can work it in the range you need to. Like Dave, I don't cleat when I'm on the wire to keep myself from getting lazy. My setup is a 9:1 with a taper, and the taper makes all the difference in the world! I've ran it without and it SUCKS! period. I built a tapered main sheet when I bought my last boat, with the Ronstan blocks I honestly couldn't tell if it made any difference in ease of sheeting. I love those blocks.
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Posts: 5,525 | How much line do you need for 9:1? I suppose that if I wanted 8:1 the proper length would be mid way between 7:1 and 9:1?
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