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Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: cyberspeed] #241335
12/14/11 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cyberspeed
Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Originally Posted by cyberspeed
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The RRS requires responsibility on the part of the sailors... This is enforced by peer pressure and your integrity... When you don't have agreement on facts... It won't be pretty.

I can guarantee if he doesn't make it right, I will personally see that he is not allowed to race any distance races I see him entered into.


Oh for gods sake... you can't do this...

Of course I can't "Toss" someone out. But I can send an email to the person in charge with a link to the video stating that Wave refused to make amends to Adrenaline after he agreed to.


Yeah... and what do you expect the OA to do? They will not get involved in a p!ss!ing contest.

The mistake was not running the race under the RRS. Not having a protest hearing, to hear testimony, fill out the paperwork, and issue a judgment.

I heard him and saw him shake and then he changed his mind... Ok... now what. .... this happens all the time. Tis why we have contracts in life... the RRS is the contract we sign up to play this game... . when you don't... Anything goes.


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Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: Mark Schneider] #241336
12/14/11 02:24 PM
12/14/11 02:24 PM
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Back to Steeplechase again:
I can't understand what all the fuss is about. In the first place, this is a distance race, there is no surf involved, so in 27 years there has only been one other accidental collision between two boats, as far as I know.
In the second place, Skip will be paying for the damages to Todd's boat.
So what is the problem?

Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: Mary] #241337
12/14/11 02:28 PM
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Problem is that Skip is trying to get out of it.


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Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: Mary] #241340
12/14/11 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mary
Back to Steeplechase again:
I can't understand what all the fuss is about. In the first place, this is a distance race, there is no surf involved, so in 27 years there has only been one other accidental collision between two boats, as far as I know.
In the second place, Skip will be paying for the damages to Todd's boat.
So what is the problem?

From the first (long) post on page 12
Originally Posted by brucat

As for the rules debate; I totally understand that it is possible to run any race, anywhere, using any rules that you want. My question is, why would you? Most people racing at this event are used to racing under RRS, and when boat-on-boat situations arise, will probably expect the other boats to act accordingly.

Moreover, in this case, the event flyer says:
Originally Posted by 27th ANNUAL KEY LARGO STEEPLECHASE RACE Rules and Information

There is no Race Committee.

There is no Protest Committee, so please obey the racing rules (my emphasis) and rules of the road.

How is this intended to mean that the RRS do not apply? What other racing rules are you invoking?

RRS (unchanged) provides for protests. Sailors at this event are used to RRS, and your flyer "hints" at RRS.

What I still want to know is, how is it beneficial to the sailors to not have a protest committee?

Mike

Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: cyberspeed] #241427
12/15/11 03:26 PM
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No, Craig, he wasn't trying to get out of it. Please see his post on the other thread.
He happens to be a very methodical person, but certainly upright and honest.
Rick


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Re: Key Largo Steeplechase Update [Re: Timbo] #241468
12/16/11 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Ask any Wave sailor how those damned Inter 20's just suck you in to their votex!


+1

Where's that picture of Dave White's Wave after the viscious N20 downwind attack at T-winds a few years back?


Jay

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