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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: John Williams] #242725
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All I know is that a bunch of mixed teams showed up to sail last weekend. That was cool.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Kris Hathaway] #242726
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Mike,

Seriously, if you were charged with bringing multi-hulls back into the Olympics, would you make the event:
1) Men only
2) Women only
3) Open
4) Mixed
or some other combination? And what would you expect the result to be?

Jake,

You are so right. I will hazard to guess that if the event had been open, more boats would have competed, but with fewer females. Would that have been better, or worse do you think?



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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Kris Hathaway] #242733
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All of this is a thinly veiled attempt to get more hotties on the cat scene.Kudos to that. The Olympic part of it is just the bait. Everybody knows catsailors don't give a rip about the Olympics. wink whistle


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: John Williams] #242744
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Originally Posted by John Williams
Originally Posted by macca
Is there any evidence from ISAF that they have the slightest intention to grow the multihull from the current mixed discipline to 2 events in 2020?


You know as well as any how it works. There is a renewed discussion every quad. At present, there are ISAF committee members and MNA representatives that are very much on-board with this longer-range plan. Coming up with that plan was one of the first things done when we lost the last event.



Unfortunately I do know how it works... and thats exactly why I question the logic in believing there is a plan or pathway to two events for 2020.

The backroom dealings that have taken place so far since the selection of mixed are of a level that even I struggle to believe and yet they continue, so I see very little chance that the right moves will be made for 2016 or 2020.

So, to that end I propose that we all go sailing and forget the whole debacle that is the Olympics. We all know its much better to go sailing than it is to fight a losing battle about it. smile


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #242746
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
All of this is a thinly veiled attempt to get more hotties on the cat scene.Kudos to that. The Olympic part of it is just the bait. Everybody knows catsailors don't give a rip about the Olympics. wink whistle

Pure Genius if you ask me.

Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Kris Hathaway] #242749
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I heard that next week Nacra will announce another yet unknown cat which they will send to the evaluation event (in addition to the F16).

Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Kris Hathaway] #242750
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Buddy of mine owns a local bar that does rather well. According to him, one key to success is in getting the female clientele in the door. The rest will take care of itself.

The analogy probably isn't water-tight, but pretty darn close...


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Tony_F18] #242751
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
I heard that next week Nacra will announce another yet unknown cat which they will send to the evaluation event (in addition to the F16).


let me think... Epoxy built infusion hulls with f20 boards, wonder where that idea came from smile


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Originally Posted by xanderwess
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
All of this is a thinly veiled attempt to get more hotties on the cat scene.Kudos to that. The Olympic part of it is just the bait. Everybody knows catsailors don't give a rip about the Olympics. wink whistle

Pure Genius if you ask me.


I'll agree after the minimalist apparel requirements are listed.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #242759
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by xanderwess
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
All of this is a thinly veiled attempt to get more hotties on the cat scene.Kudos to that. The Olympic part of it is just the bait. Everybody knows catsailors don't give a rip about the Olympics. wink whistle

Pure Genius if you ask me.


I'll agree after the minimalist apparel requirements are listed.


Good lord man....70% of them are under 18.


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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by xanderwess
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
All of this is a thinly veiled attempt to get more hotties on the cat scene.Kudos to that. The Olympic part of it is just the bait. Everybody knows catsailors don't give a rip about the Olympics. wink whistle

Pure Genius if you ask me.


I'll agree after the minimalist apparel requirements are listed.


Good lord man....70% of them are under 18.


And still a foot taller than you.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: macca] #242798
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Originally Posted by macca

Unfortunately I do know how it works... and thats exactly why I question the logic in believing there is a plan or pathway to two events for 2020.

The backroom dealings that have taken place so far since the selection of mixed are of a level that even I struggle to believe and yet they continue, so I see very little chance that the right moves will be made for 2016 or 2020.

So, to that end I propose that we all go sailing and forget the whole debacle that is the Olympics. We all know its much better to go sailing than it is to fight a losing battle about it. smile


Bingo!


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #242799
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever

And still a foot taller than you.


Dude, come on you're better than that. The low hanging fruit is for the pikers.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: David Ingram] #242814
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever

And still a foot taller than you.


Dude, come on you're better than that. The low hanging fruit is for the pikers.


Yeah, but he took some cheapshot about young girls in the Olympics (Jake this ain't China)and he already had the percentages figured, so I went for the gnome thing.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #242819
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever

And still a foot taller than you.


Dude, come on you're better than that. The low hanging fruit is for the pikers.


Yeah, but he took some cheapshot about young girls in the Olympics (Jake this ain't China)and he already had the percentages figured, so I went for the gnome thing.


That was not a cheap shot at young girls in the Olympics (or China?). It was a shot at you dirty old men asking for skimpy clothing requirements for a group composed primarily of teenagers.


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Visit your local high school next year during girls volleyball season. Or girls track. We had a track team disqualified because their shorts were so skimpy and sheer! The year before the parents overruled the girls choice for volleyball uniforms. Mind you the girls are selecting these uniforms. I don't know what they're thinking but it's easy on the eye!


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: pgp] #242832
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Originally Posted by pgp
Visit your local high school next year during girls volleyball season. Or girls track. We had a track team disqualified because their shorts were so skimpy and sheer! The year before the parents overruled the girls choice for volleyball uniforms. Mind you the girls are selecting these uniforms. I don't know what they're thinking but it's easy on the eye!


You illustrate my point.


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: Kris Hathaway] #242833
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What? That teen girls don't always make good choices or that you're a monk? What am I supposed to do, gouge my eyes out?


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Re: Mixed Multihull Evaluation [Re: pgp] #242841
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What am I supposed to do, gouge my eyes out?


At least don't act like a pervert in the open. With comments like that, I guess we won't be surprised when we see you on Dateline sitting at a table with Chris Hansen offering you a cookie.


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