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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #241139
12/13/11 02:47 AM
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Twin trapped under kite on a Taipan with a Taipan stick (lower hounds) about 160kg on board.


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: Karl_Brogger] #242306
01/12/12 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I've never seen anyone do it with a Goodall mast, down boy! laugh


Chris P and I did it a few years back at Tradewinds (and won)... Taylor was following us the entire time yelling that our mast was about to break... I think he just wanted us to slow down.

Done properly, they can handle it. That said, we have also broken a mast doing it (okay so it was Chris and Dan... weighing 100kg each ;-). Officially I wouldn't recommend it.... Much like you aren't supposed to drive 200 Mph...... still can be fun though

Last edited by maritimesailor; 01/12/12 10:15 AM.
Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243365
02/01/12 02:08 PM
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Is anyone had a hands on experience? First shipment wa back in Dec


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243380
02/01/12 05:37 PM
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they are sailing it now @ the thailand regatta [varuna yacht club]

Re: Nacra F16 [Re: Kennethsf] #243389
02/01/12 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kennethsf
they are sailing it now @ the thailand regatta [varuna yacht club]


I'll be in Thailand, will try to go for a sail and report back


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243408
02/02/12 11:01 AM
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Thanks Jeff, looking forward to hear from you. I've ordered mine but it'll takes 6 months for delivery. Really want to know how it sails.


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243455
02/03/12 08:56 AM
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Haven't sailed it yet, but in person the boat looks awesome. Gunnar and Coen are both sailing them here- can't think of better test pilots!


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243742
02/09/12 11:28 AM
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I hear its an Infusion mast, (shorter obviously). what the F is nacra thinking there?!


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: Karl_Brogger] #243744
02/09/12 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I hear its an Infusion mast, (shorter obviously). what the F is nacra thinking there?!


Karl, you are aware you are an AHPC dealer and you're dumping on another providers product, right?


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243747
02/09/12 12:14 PM
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You're right Dave.



Dear NACRA,

I'm sorry for questioning the wisdom of putting a stiff butt mast on a little light boat.

Thanks,
Karl Brogger


(edit)- Ironically "Lil' Kim - Magic Stick" came up on itunes as I hit post. Made me laugh.

Last edited by Karl_Brogger; 02/09/12 12:16 PM.

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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243751
02/09/12 01:09 PM
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I don't see the problem with Karl's post here.

Maybe if he were a Nacra dealer, dumping on a Nacra product?


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243754
02/09/12 01:54 PM
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Any boats sold in the U.S. yet? Florida?


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: Karl_Brogger] #243755
02/09/12 02:22 PM
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Maybe the infusion mast is not such a bad choice ? It is by no means a hobie tiger mast (and placed on the FX-one after being cut to length)


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: pgp] #243757
02/09/12 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pgp
Any boats sold in the U.S. yet? Florida?


I know of one guy up in New England who has ordered one, but said it won't be delivered until later in the spring.

Here's a Nacra F16 video for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ApOs0ElEkk


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: Wouter] #243759
02/09/12 05:00 PM
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Northfield Mn
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Originally Posted by Wouter

Maybe the infusion mast is not such a bad choice ? It is by no means a hobie tiger mast (and placed on the FX-one after being cut to length)


That's my fear is it'll be like the FXone. You're right its probably no where as stiff as the tiger section

Could be just the same shape and a thinner wall? There is a lot voodoo that goes into extruding aluminium, so maybe a tweak in how its done yields a thinner wall with the same tooling.


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: pgp] #243760
02/09/12 05:16 PM
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The Cathouse dealer newsletter in October said one had been pre-sold up our way (Great Lakes).

Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243761
02/09/12 05:22 PM
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Okay, I'll play the heretic. An F16, is an F16, is an F16. Performance comes from the meat attached to the tiller.


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: pgp] #243775
02/09/12 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by pgp
An F16, is an F16, is an F16.


Pete, I'm sure that is very true for the likes of you and me. I loose so much time from bad starts, bad tacks, and bad mark roundings, that I expect that the moderate gains from a particular design would be irrelevant, even if I did know how to tweak the rig to maximize those gains.

:-)


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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243779
02/09/12 10:29 PM
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You're no fun! We haven't heard anyone raling* on the virtues of unobtanium or foils in along time.

Anything truly earth shattering in this new boat? If it's better, in what ways is it better?

*I can't find this word in any of the several dictionaries I've consultated, so you'll have to accept it as a nonce.

Last edited by pgp; 02/10/12 08:22 AM.

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Re: Nacra F16 [Re: tikoes] #243787
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Well, I didn't get a chance to sail the boat, but did get to talk to Gunnar and Coen about it. They are very happy with the platform, but said the main needed some work which was hurting them in light breeze. Some very close racing amongst the Vipers and Nacras here in Thailand, should be great for the F16 class in general!


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