I think that 3 sheets to the wind comes from the old square riggers that had square sails with a sheet in each corner, once the crew let go of 3 of them, the sail was flogging out of control on the end of just one sheet
Paul
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Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: jkkartz1]
#251331 08/13/1202:57 PM08/13/1202:57 PM
Ships cannon balls were stored in stacks in dishes called brass monkeys. The brass monkeys filled with water, when it froze and expanded the cannon balls would roll off onto the deck.
Seriously?!?! You didn't just make that up?!?!?
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Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: ksurfer2]
#251334 08/13/1203:12 PM08/13/1203:12 PM
<****. And the square rigger/3 sheets makes sense.
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The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: TEAMVMG]
#251335 08/13/1203:55 PM08/13/1203:55 PM
Ships cannon balls were stored in stacks in dishes called brass monkeys. The brass monkeys filled with water, when it froze and expanded the cannon balls would roll off onto the deck.
I will have to disagree on this one. I have toured a tall ship rendered historically accurate (and the HMS Bounty, but I think that's less historically accurate), and they don't store cannonballs in the pyrimid shapes. Can you imagine a rolling deck with those things all stacked nicely?
The cannonballs were stored on planks with holes cut out of them. I think they call them "garlands"
You can see the garland behind this cannon (right bottom corner of the photo)
Down below the main deck, the cannonballs are stored in racks (like soda cans) for easy retrieval
Even better, land batteries (like Fort Jefferson, Dry Tortugas) had a similar rack system for cannonballs, but they were heated red-hot in a fire on their way to being retrieved, so the cannon can blast away and set a ship on fire as well. Not sure how they prevented the powder from self-igniting when they pushed the red hot cannonball down the muzzle, but I'm sure the park ranger would know...
There is some mention on the web of "monkeys" in Lord General Cromwel's inventories (circa 1650) of cannon regarded as "brasse munkeys alias Dogs", which may allude to the smaller Minion or Saker cannons (3-4 pound shot weight/ approx 3" diameter) versus the Demi-Cannon (32-36 pound shot weight/ approx 6" diameter)
I thought "Three sheets" meant sails, but the "Google Machine" in front of me corrected my thinking. I totally forgot "sheet" also meant control line. Crappy sailor I turned out to be, I guess.
Capt'n Morgan is probably flipping over in his pirate ship by now...
Jay
Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: waterbug_wpb]
#251339 08/13/1204:18 PM08/13/1204:18 PM
Ships cannon balls were stored in stacks in dishes called brass monkeys. The brass monkeys filled with water, when it froze and expanded the cannon balls would roll off onto the deck.
I will have to disagree on this one. I have toured a tall ship rendered historically accurate (and the HMS Bounty, but I think that's less historically accurate), and they don't store cannonballs in the pyrimid shapes. Can you imagine a rolling deck with those things all stacked nicely?
The cannonballs were stored on planks with holes cut out of them. I think they call them "garlands"
You can see the garland behind this cannon (right bottom corner of the photo)
Down below the main deck, the cannonballs are stored in racks (like soda cans) for easy retrieval
Even better, land batteries (like Fort Jefferson, Dry Tortugas) had a similar rack system for cannonballs, but they were heated red-hot in a fire on their way to being retrieved, so the cannon can blast away and set a ship on fire as well. Not sure how they prevented the powder from self-igniting when they pushed the red hot cannonball down the muzzle, but I'm sure the park ranger would know...
There is some mention on the web of "monkeys" in Lord General Cromwel's inventories (circa 1650) of cannon regarded as "brasse munkeys alias Dogs", which may allude to the smaller Minion or Saker cannons (3-4 pound shot weight/ approx 3" diameter) versus the Demi-Cannon (32-36 pound shot weight/ approx 6" diameter)
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: waterbug_wpb]
#251342 08/13/1205:47 PM08/13/1205:47 PM
In the beastie boys song, the "brass monkey" they are referring to is from cannon batteries found in warmer, humid climates. The water would pool in the brass monkey and algea would turn the water green. Those were referred to as "funky monkeys".
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one
Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: Arjan13]
#251370 08/14/1209:08 AM08/14/1209:08 AM
The Beastie Boys "Brass Monkey" is Rum, vodka and Orange Juice over ice.Nothing to do with cannonballs. But Karl's explanation works too.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Brass Monkey, that funky Monkey Brass Monkey junkie, that funky Monkey
Got this dance that's more than real Drink Brass Monkey, here's how you feel Put your left leg down, your right leg up Tilt your head back, let's finish the cup M.C.A. with the bottle, D rocks the can
Adrock gets nice with Charlie Chan We're offered Moet, we don't mind Chivas Wherever we go with bring the Monkey with us Adrock drinks three, Mike D is D
Double R foots the bill most definitely I drink Brass Monkey and I rock well I got a Castle in Brooklyn That's where I dwell
Brass Monkey, that funky Monkey Brass Monkey junkie, that funky Monkey
'Cause I drink it anytime and anyplace When it's time to get ill, I pour it on my face Monkey tastes Def when you pour it on ice Come on y'all, it's time to get nice
Coolin' by the lockers, gettin' kind of funky Me and the crew, we're drinking Brass Monkey This girl walked by, she gave me the eye I reached in the locker, grabbed the Spanish Fly
I put it with the Monkey, mixed it in the cup Went over to the girl, "Yo baby, what's up?" I offered her a sip, the girl she gave me lip It did begin, the stuff wore in and now she's on my tip
Brass Monkey, that funky Monkey Brass Monkey junkie, that funky Monkey
Step up to the bar, put the girl down She takes a big gulp and slaps it around Take a sip, you can do it, you get right to it We had a case in the place and we went right through it
You got a dry Martini, thinking you're cool I'll take your place at the bar, I smack you off your stool I'll down a '40 dog in a single gulp And if you got beef you'll get beat to a pulp
Monkey and parties and reelin' and rockin' Def, def girls, girls, all y'all jockin' The song and dance keeping you in a trance If you don't buy my record, I got my advance
I drink it, I think it, I see it, I be it I love Brass Monkey but I won't give D it We got the bottle, you got the cup Come on everybody let's get fff
Brass Monkey, that funky Monkey Brass Monkey junkie, that funky Monkey
Jake Kohl
Re: Tacking and Jibing from trapeze
[Re: Jake]
#251375 08/14/1210:45 AM08/14/1210:45 AM
Jake, it was a joke. I'm reasonably sure Karl made that up. You're working to hard.
Jay, How do you "sign" loudly. My wife does sign language ,but I can never hear her.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
Well, let me ask you this way. How many times do you think the word "funky" was used on a ship with Cannon?
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White