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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Jake] #252282
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Originally Posted by Jake
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Ding, you're 242, right? Why can't I find your boat on the list? What fleet color?


black probably.


snap. right in da nutz


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: waterbug_wpb] #252299
09/13/12 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Ding, you're 242, right? Why can't I find your boat on the list? What fleet color?


black probably.



snap. right in da nutz


No blacks for me. When the crew trap broke and we left the course they stopped tracking us.

I did tell Mark today that we were going home with at least one black flag. Starting in silver is significantly easier.


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: David Ingram] #252306
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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: David Ingram] #252311
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Ding, you're 242, right? Why can't I find your boat on the list? What fleet color?


black probably.



snap. right in da nutz


No blacks for me. When the crew trap broke and we left the course they stopped tracking us.

I did tell Mark today that we were going home with at least one black flag. Starting in silver is significantly easier.


I wondered what happened to you guys...sorry about that!


Jake Kohl
Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252312
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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252313
09/14/12 09:29 AM
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So I'll start the fray. So since I'm not there what are the top dogs rides? Which Manufacturer is shining the brightest.

Now where is the popcorn?



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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252314
09/14/12 09:43 AM
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Breakdown of the top 10:
1st - Phantom
2nd - Nacra Infusion mk2
3rd - Cirrus-R
4th - AHPC C2
5th - AHPC C2
6th - Nacra Infusion mk2
7th - Cirrus-R
8th - Nacra Infusion mk2
9th - AHPC C2
10th - AHPC C2

So thats 1 Phantom, 2 Cirrus-R's, 4 C2's, and 3 Nacra Infusion mk2s.

About 75% of the top 10 cats are white though, they must be faster grin

Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252315
09/14/12 09:47 AM
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Currently in the top 10:

Backes- Phantom
Besson- Infusion MKII
Heemskerk- Cirrus R
Bundock- C2
Zeekant- C2
Larsen- Infusion MKII
Boulogne- Cirrus R (?)
De Koning- Infusion MKII
Waterhouse- C2
Brouwer- C2

I would say the box rule is working pretty darn well. I believe the top Wildcat is Bissaro in 20th, and the top Infusion MKI is Struble in 24th.


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252316
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Tony beat me to it, but Backes is on a Phantom, not a Cirrus


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252317
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I was going back to correct it and found you already had smile
And Boulonge is definitely Cirrus though (he's the founder/owner of the company!).

Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252318
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Looks like the US is back out of the top ten. Not shocking, and yet I was hopeful.

Looks like JC & Dalton are moving up.

Karl and Beth, keep it up!!!

How does this actually work? The actual event is only three days right? The first six are qualifying to sort the wheat from the chaff right?


I'm boatless.
Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Jeff.Dusek] #252320
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Where is the first Wildcat then? I thought it would have been Zeecat- but he has jumped ship.
This is a reflection of the support given by Hobie to their sailors.


Paul

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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: TEAMVMG] #252321
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
This is a reflection of the support given by Hobie to their sailors.
What? Just because they're not paying one of the hotshots to drive their platform doesn't mean they aren't there with "support".

Ask John Bauldry what kind of support he got when his rig was totalled in a pitchpole/collision. He's sailing again today.

Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252322
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Good vid. of John from Jeremy.Impressive fast repair.


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: mbounds] #252323
09/14/12 12:49 PM
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Good point... Support is quite different from Marketing. As a class member... I would be much more interested in support.... the marketing does me no good!

I don't KNOW who is at the worlds, racing a boat as part of a marketing effort of a builder.... The last worlds ID'd the boats in the scoresheets but you did not know who was there for a builder.

At this stage of the class.... are there significant do many people believe there are differences between the platforms, rigs and sails in the F18s?

Does this kind of marketing by rock star work on the rank and file F18 sailor? or have those days passed and now you are buying dealer support, build quality and other stuff.

My guess is that the DNA platform will be the dominant platform in the A class worlds.... Again... I have no idea who is getting factory support (if at all)


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252324
09/14/12 01:11 PM
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I don't think anyone can bring enough spares. I think the AHPC group had three or four masts, but that can go pretty quickly. Same with anything else, boards, spinpoles, rudders/castings, sails. Rough nasty conditions + 100 boats and there can be a shitload of broken parts in a hurry.


I'm boatless.
Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252325
09/14/12 01:22 PM
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How many boats are sailing without long boards? Are they needed in this breeze?


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252327
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On the C2 you're pulling them up shortly after hopping on the wire two up.


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Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Karl_Brogger] #252330
09/14/12 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger

How does this actually work? The actual event is only three days right? The first six are qualifying to sort the wheat from the chaff right?

No -

"20.5 Except for race scores excluded under instruction 20.6, a boat’s series score for the regatta will be the
total of her race scores from those qualifying races completed by all fleets and her final races."

20.6 is just the discard rule

Re: F18 Worlds in Long Beach [Re: Mike Hill] #252332
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If the tweet is correct . . .
Aus 325(Waterhouse) and Aus 888(Bundock) black flag race 12 gold fleet.
Bundock was going into today's races in 4th. Ouch. FYI, there are two sail #'s 888.


Philip
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