Both pics show the broken rudder...they were still foiling without it!
I just read the swedish original text which said that the fun ended when one rudder foil broke.
It actually looks like they are foiling, and with no daggerboard/mainfoil applied as well on the windward hull. I can not even see the foil on the windward hull. Windward rudder is white while leeward is black. Looks kind of funny.
That is really cool and looks like a lot of fun, but I would hate to see the F18 class with foiling daggerboards.
I really doubt that would happen. In this case, I bet its pretty in pictures while sailing at certain angles - but I bet it is unable to foil while sailing upwind and is very very slow. I also can't image using that from a practical standpoint - putting in boards from the bottom of the boat, clearing weeds (eeek!).
Jake Kohl
Re: Foiling F18...
[Re: Jake]
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I really doubt that would happen. In this case, I bet its pretty in pictures while sailing at certain angles - but I bet it is unable to foil while sailing upwind and is very very slow. I also can't image using that from a practical standpoint - putting in boards from the bottom of the boat, clearing weeds (eeek!).
Maybe sooner than you think, there is an item on the agenda for the upcoming F18-WC meeting: "18. To discuss Formula 18 handicap regarding curved Dagger board (Dutch class request): Presentation to be forwarded by Dutch rep."
There is some more interesting stuff in the upcoming agenda though, interesting read.
I really doubt that would happen. In this case, I bet its pretty in pictures while sailing at certain angles - but I bet it is unable to foil while sailing upwind and is very very slow. I also can't image using that from a practical standpoint - putting in boards from the bottom of the boat, clearing weeds (eeek!).
Maybe sooner than you think, there is an item on the agenda for the upcoming F18-WC meeting: "18. To discuss Formula 18 handicap regarding curved Dagger board (Dutch class request): Presentation to be forwarded by Dutch rep."
There is some more interesting stuff in the upcoming agenda though, interesting read.
This is the same class that disallowed having straight daggerboards canted in the hulls...I think it would be a pretty significant detriment to open up the rules to allow the boats to be equipped with daggerboards that cost $3,600. Price has already gotten out of control with boats well north of $20k.
Not really sure its that big of a deal Jake, the long board price is already insane, breaking one may be an insurance claim for some people as is. Switching to curved boards wouldn't make matters exponentially worse. However you'd eliminate the existing fleet as the boat would need to be designed around the foils. This I don't see the council voting on. I could see them letting t-foils on the rudders but otherwise no big game changers.
refresh my memory, is the F18 a development class?
Are we developing these boats beyond the reach (fiscal and ability) of the average sailor?
If we are to build the fleet through new sailors, should they start with some other fleet(s) before moving to a relatively high tech (and narrow performance groove) F18 foiling fleet?
As it is, I could see an H-16 sailor moving rather easily to the F18 fleet. Minor changes in boathandling and spinnaker between the two.
Moving from an H-16 to a foiling (or semi-foiling) spin boat would probably take a lot more effort, time, and money - possibly discouraging many a "hobbyist" racer (those whom sailing is a sport, not a profession)