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Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum #255326
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A few weeks ago there was a discussion here about camerapositions.

So I changed my helmet camera into a camera mounted astern on a little pole on a support bar which I already had.
Tried it today.

A bit cold (3 degrees Celsius), a tail of northern swell and according the meteo above 5 Bft. Which wasn't by the way.

Because of this new camera position I was tempted to extend the scenes to other things then just the sea.
Watching everything back, I'm content with this cam position.
Forum thank you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMKThlRmCGE&list=UL

ronald reeder



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Re: Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum [Re: northsea junkie] #255384
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Interesting video. I liked your tow vehicle.

Camera position was good. The open tramp weave let a lot of water through. Not a big problem though.

Angle of view seemed a bit narrower than my gopro. Not much visibility of skipper/crew.


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Originally Posted by rehmbo


The open tramp weave let a lot of water through.


Yes, but good for holding channel locks!


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The open tramp is essential in passing a high break. Though there are ofcourse also downsides to a net-tramp.
But sailing away from the beach with a normal tramp was sometimes impossible for me (pushed back).

Yes the angle of view is always the problem with cameras, I think. You never have the range of the human eye.

But with my Sanyo-camera, I think its rather good. Mind you; there is a straight horizon in the images and I'm hanging out almost just sidewards away from the camera.
I've no experience with a go-pro camera, but I'm now always out of the picture.

Which is good by the way.

ronald reeder




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your dedication to sailing is admirable
or, your insane... or both smile

that makes me appreciate Florida all that much more

Re: Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum [Re: northsea junkie] #255415
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There is a nuclear plant just north of where he sails, could explain a few things wink

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what kind of boat is that? Interesting seeing a singlehander sailing a sloop rig


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(I)like you Mn3. Red your profile.

Tony, to make it even more worse: I'm literally the neighbour of the nuclear plant. I live nextdoor on the dike of the provincial road. Sometimes I get the post from them and viceversa.

When the nuclear reactor should explode, I'm the first to be just broken down in atomes.

For that reason I have less fear

ronald


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Jay, you have to digg dowm in the files of this catsailor forum. I wrote both in the general forum as well as in the homebuilt section several times about my catdesign.

It's a homebuilt one-off 15 ft epoxy-carbon cat with full foam inside and based on the good old Prindle-15

ronald


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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
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Outstanding. Especially since you can actually FUNCTION at 3 deg Celsius. smile


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Yes Jay and 3 degrees Celsius plus 20 knot makes a windchill of around minus 6!

But let me tell you a little secret of my place near the nuclear-plant. The reactor has a wateroutlet in the sea for her secundary coolwater.

In fact there is a blown-off each day via a pipe in the sea of this hot water.
(I used to walk/swimm to the end of this pipe for having a hot bubble bath in my studenttime).

So starting to sail alongside this pipe should theoretically make things more bearable. But practically it doesn't care a hang!

ronald

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Re: Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum [Re: northsea junkie] #255444
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What I like best when watching youtube sailing videos, and something that seems sorely lacking, is seeing how the crew handles transitions; tacking and gybing of course, but also wave crests and big wind changes.


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But Daniel, honestly, you do know, don't you, that transitions are the necessary evil in catsailing.

I mean if I do not gybe at a certain moment (I never tack), I will endup in England. In your case you will endup in Afrika, I guess.
So you have to.

But shooting that movements with a onboard cam is always a disillusion. What you endup seeing are images of stiff figures that go on all fours laborious to the other side.
And in my case with the cam astern and doing a gybe you will only see a big tired face, flashing before the lens.

No, I carefully delete all these moments in my footage.

ronald

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Re: Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum [Re: northsea junkie] #255446
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why do you never tack?

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First its never necesssary and second I can't.

My 15 ft cat is 2.55 m beamwide and is for that reason (or some other?) difficult to turn through the wind. Only the oldfashioned stitchin/stitchout manoeuvre works.
Besides that, because my boom is rather low situated, when tacking, I have to squeeze my fat body on my belly to the other side.

I assure you, not a thrilling sight and very uncomfortable too.

Doing a gibe in 25 knots in high waves is not only exciting but feels more safe then tacking

ronald


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haha, ok .. gotcha

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Thanks for the video Ronald. Now i'm waiting for part 2 where we find out what happens to the pliers.
Is it superhuman to sail in the cold north sea this time of year?

here is another camera angle idea:
you can make a pole for a gopro with a ski pole and tape as a shim for the gopro mount.. there are also videos showing how to use 3/4" pvc, endocarps, and an elbow fitting. search for gopro stick.
once you have the stick, hang the camera from the bottom of the stick. attach that to the boom or anywhere. i like the boom because it is stable but it moves when you let the traveler out. the single camera angle gets old pretty fast so this allows a small amount of variety.

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The pliers was a little practical joke to show it is a home-made cat (you'r the first who mentioned it).

I think that indeed this new cam position eventually will bore also.

And I don't consider myself as superhuman. Well, I obviously am an exception with regard to catsailing in wintertime.
But with windsurfing I have a lot colleagues at sea in this time. Not to mention the wave-surfers and the kitesurfers!

A time ago I've told this forum that most dutch beaches can't be reached by sailors in wintertime.

So I suppose there are enough dutch catsailors who would also like to sail in wintertime but can't.
(At least that's what I hope for the honour of my country)


ronald

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Re: Trial of the best cameraposition according this forum [Re: ] #258478
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gopro has a helmet mount system
Originally Posted by barrett
please suggest me how to fix a camera in a helmet, Actually I am going to a campaign and I want to capture all the travel and work which we'll do here. so thanks in advance.

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I just bought a camera to use on the boat. I was headed toward a GoPro Hero Black edition but the reviews on Amazon were terrible (battery life issues, freezing up, etc.). I just ordered a Contour+2 instead that has some of the same features (using an iphone as a viewfinder / start-stop remote, setup, etc.) and will be trying it out at spring fever.


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