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Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet #256058
01/07/13 02:30 PM
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Charlotte Harbor, FL
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Help us re-invigorate a SW Florida Hobie Fleet on beautiful Charlotte Harbor. We had a guy all prepped to do this and now he has gone on to other things.

Charlotte harbor is an excellent venue for Hobie Racing with the Charlotte Harbor Regatta coming up in February.

give me a call at 941-979-9728, let's talk about the possibilities.

John ><>

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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256059
01/07/13 02:36 PM
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It's a great place to race Nacras and AHPC's too.


Lee

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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: TeamChums] #256060
01/07/13 02:40 PM
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Charlotte Harbor, FL
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That is so true... we are a Hobie Dealer so we have to place emphasis on the Waves and H-16's of course beach cats & tri's make great race partners.

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: TeamChums] #256063
01/07/13 03:53 PM
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Hernando, Florida
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Yeah Lee,

The regatta won't discuss an open class for Hobie 20, Inters or others....to much work they say!


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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256064
01/07/13 05:22 PM
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Toronto, Ontario
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Buy an ad..

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: pitchpoledave] #256065
01/07/13 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pitchpoledave
Buy an ad..


Or offer to do the scoring if they'll take times.


Jake Kohl
Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Jake] #256070
01/08/13 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by pitchpoledave
Buy an ad..


Or offer to do the scoring if they'll take times.


well, crap, if it's that easy...


1 1 1 1 1 score 5

done


Jay

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256075
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And this is why I hate coming here in the winter.

Someone, somewhere is planning an event or building a fleet that doesn't include the brand or model you sail, so you go out of your way to be offended and post this garbage. Way to grow the sport.

I see this as someone picking up where someone else left off (amazing in itself), is promoting cat sailing and trying to build a fleet. These are all good things.

The fact that he's a dealer is a bonus. We need more dealers like this, not fewer.

Mike

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: brucat] #256076
01/08/13 02:56 PM
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it is certainly a tough crowd in this forum, and I agree with you, but full and upfront disclosure (especially if you have a vested interest) goes a long way to quell "upsets".
Originally Posted by brucat
And this is why I hate coming here in the winter.

Someone, somewhere is planning an event or building a fleet that doesn't include the brand or model you sail, so you go out of your way to be offended and post this garbage. Way to grow the sport.

I see this as someone picking up where someone else left off (amazing in itself), is promoting cat sailing and trying to build a fleet. These are all good things.

The fact that he's a dealer is a bonus. We need more dealers like this, not fewer.

Mike

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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256077
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Jeremy would have approached it differently, but even he's pointed out numerous times that no one is getting rich in that game, so I'd cut this guy some slack.

Mike

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256079
01/08/13 04:45 PM
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Come to the Tradewinds with a Wave or H16, or whatever, as there are a lot of folks from close to that area that might be interested. One of them has 6 Waves alone.
Rick


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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: brucat] #256082
01/08/13 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat
And this is why I hate coming here in the winter.

Someone, somewhere is planning an event or building a fleet that doesn't include the brand or model you sail, so you go out of your way to be offended and post this jgarbage. Way to grow the sport.

I see this as someone picking up where someone else left off (amazing in itself), is promoting cat sailing and trying to build a fleet. These are all good things.

The fact that he's a dealer is a bonus. We need more dealers like this, not fewer.

Mike

Mike, you now as well as anyone where this hostility is coming from and the fact that the edict was enacted, what is it now 10+ plus years ago and people are still bitter goes to show you don't know the community as well as you think you do. When we see a post like this it reminds us that a coporation is attempting to use its influence to drive the volunteers and NOT be a partner in the growth of the sport we all love regardless of the logo on our sail.

Careful you don't fall off your horse the fall is substantian from that height.


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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256083
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Oh, and now we have the full conspiracy theory to blast this into 20 pages of nothing that will move anything forward.

If the F18 fleet wants to promote itself, I don't put up a hissy fit that they aren't getting access for the Waves.

Why can't we just let folks promote their boats and do the same with your own? I know, that would mean we couldn't live in the past anymore, and what fun would that be?

Mike

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: brucat] #256084
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It's real simple....just organize a race that welcomes all catamarans. No hostility there. I do agree, however, a new dealer is a great thing even if it's just one brand. Sorry for the original post. Keep us posted on the race plans and dates. I volunteer to help with races often and don't discriminate on brands (I still love helping out at Hobie events). Do I wish they didn't discriminate? Yes. But life goes on.

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Lee

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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256085
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There are plenty of regattas that are open to all boats. I work at those, and have a lot of fun, too.

But just think about what you're suggesting. At every regatta in the country where any one model of boat is racing, we need to insist on inviting all beach cats. Is that what I'm hearing?

Mike

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256087
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Mike,

You are stirring the pot that you wanted taken off the stove. That last post is asking this to get bumped up to at least 5 pages accomplishing nothing.

This is coming from a Hobie sailor.


Brian C.
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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: soccerguy83] #256088
01/09/13 09:44 AM
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Does Hobie have an F16 compliant boat? Or F18 compliant other than Tiger? forgot about the Wildcat

I am of the opinion that any well-run regatta that gets a lot of boats on the water is good for all "brands", as non-beachcat sailors (and some non-sailors) will see a bazillion boats on Charlotte harbor one weekend and say "huh, maybe I should see what the hub-bub is about..."

I'd venture a guess that many of us came from leaner fleets originally, and found out that beachcats were fun through a regatta or some other sailing event where beachcats were around? And we then went on and bought one (or two, or three...)

And it is nice to know that there are still folk willing to put up with the hassle and low margins to be a boat dealer these days.

You build support with a good product, but even better service.

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Jay

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: soccerguy83] #256089
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Originally Posted by soccerguy83
Mike,

You are stirring the pot that you wanted taken off the stove. That last post is asking this to get bumped up to at least 5 pages accomplishing nothing.

This is coming from a Hobie sailor.


+1 S.O.P.


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Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: Stuff4Toys] #256090
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Brian, I'm not trying to stir anything; but I don't think it's right for these types of posts to go unchallenged. While they may represent true feelings, they are often based on half-truths.

I'm a Hobie guy too, but that has nothing to do with my point. These same arguments can apply to monohull fleets and events.

Why can't Boat A's fleet promote themselves without a sailor from Boat B getting offended? I don't buy the same old arguments, those don't move us forward.

Mike

Re: Help us build a SW Florida Hobie Fleet [Re: David Ingram] #256092
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by brucat
And this is why I hate coming here in the winter.

Someone, somewhere is planning an event or building a fleet that doesn't include the brand or model you sail, so you go out of your way to be offended and post this jgarbage. Way to grow the sport.

I see this as someone picking up where someone else left off (amazing in itself), is promoting cat sailing and trying to build a fleet. These are all good things.

The fact that he's a dealer is a bonus. We need more dealers like this, not fewer.

Mike

Mike, you now as well as anyone where this hostility is coming from and the fact that the edict was enacted, what is it now 10+ plus years ago and people are still bitter goes to show you don't know the community as well as you think you do. When we see a post like this it reminds us that a coporation is attempting to use its influence to drive the volunteers and NOT be a partner in the growth of the sport we all love regardless of the logo on our sail.

Careful you don't fall off your horse the fall is substantian from that height.


Come on man! That could NOT have been THAT long ago.


Jake Kohl
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