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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #260856
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I wouldn't wrap it all the way to the bottom and would stay short of where the cat trax will rub the hulls. I intend to wrap mine down low and use a batten to guide a razor blade to trim it back near the waterline about an inch or so clear of where the cat trax cradles slide. It's a little more durable than straight up solid color vinyl because it will have a flexible PVC laminate over the printed vinyl for UV and general protection - but you can scratch it with a trap hook or other hard thing. It's the same material as you see on the printed car wraps - it can handle 90 miles an hour and will resist rocks and sand and hold up for years but it's not a hard coating like paint or gel coat. It wouldn't survive long on the bottom of the boat if you are sliding up the beach. It can be patched (reprint a small section) and removed and/or changed on a whim.


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: JACKFLASH] #260860
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Weight though. Probably an extra four-five pounds you'd be dragging around.

Although, a mural of a B29 flying away from a mushroom cloud with "It's Miller Time!" down the side of one hull is rather intriguing.


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #260861
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Although, a mural of a B29 flying away from a mushroom cloud with "It's Miller Time!" down the side of one hull is rather intriguing.


You are one dark mother fu@#er Karl. Good to see that marriage hasn't changed you a bit.


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: Karl_Brogger] #260862
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The wrap Mike had put on the C20 was pretty cool and held up well. It did not go under the hull like Jake said so not a problem with the beach. We did scratch it in a few places when it got hot (the solid black parts) because it was a little softer, but overall very durable. Mike took it off after a couple of years when he sold the boat so maybe he will let us know how that went.

Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: David Ingram] #260863
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Although, a mural of a B29 flying away from a mushroom cloud with "It's Miller Time!" down the side of one hull is rather intriguing.


You are one dark mother fu@#er Karl. Good to see that marriage hasn't changed you a bit.



I actually wanted to get something like that on the back of my work trailer.... Kinda figured my generally yuppie demographic of a customer base wouldn't care for it too much though


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: Dlennard] #260900
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Originally Posted by Dlennard
Mike took it off after a couple of years when he sold the boat so maybe he will let us know how that went.


I had left a Worrell sticker on the inside hulls on waaaaay too long (from previous owner), and it wasn't until I discovered the magic of MEK did it come off in one easy pass...


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: waterbug_wpb] #260908
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Dlennard
Mike took it off after a couple of years when he sold the boat so maybe he will let us know how that went.


I had left a Worrell sticker on the inside hulls on waaaaay too long (from previous owner), and it wasn't until I discovered the magic of MEK did it come off in one easy pass...


There is definitely a life span for easy removal. The material manufacturer's get pretty serious about communicating that for car wraps (can you image what an entire car wrap left on for too long would be like to remove?).


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: Jake] #261017
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Originally Posted by Jake
(can you image what an entire car wrap left on for too long would be like to remove?).


Only as much as I can imagine what MEK would do to the underlying paint job smile


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Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: JACKFLASH] #261022
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Jake, how much does the environment have to do with that? On one side of the spectrum you've got a vehicle that sits outside its whole life a mile from the sun in Florida, the other being in a dark nitrogen filled environment.


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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Jake, how much does the environment have to do with that? On one side of the spectrum you've got a vehicle that sits outside its whole life a mile from the sun in Florida, the other being in a dark nitrogen filled environment.


The life rating on them takes the worst case into account. Keeping it out of the sun, or indoors, etc. will extend that.


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The same guy that installed my hull wrap removed it. Cost $150 and took him less than 2 hours. He used a heat gun and it pulled right off.

For lettering, sponsor decals, stripes, etc - use a 3M Stripe Off Wheel. I used it on my a-cat to remove a regatta decals, etc that would not come off. It did not scuff, mar, or scratch the gelcoat.



Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: JACKFLASH] #261037
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Does that wheel remove the vinyl as well or just the adhesive?how long does it last?

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I've got one of those wheels (somewhere...or, come to think of it, I might have loaned it to someone who never returned it). It only works on fresh graphics. It won't work on crusty stuff. It does also remove the adhesive but you will still need to use a light solvent and a little elbow grease in the knooks.


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It took off the vinyl and adhesive for me. I wiped it with alcohol afterwards to clean up any spots I missed.

Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: JACKFLASH] #261068
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So really we are looking at side hull protection? I'd say on an Infusion Mk. 1 that is important. Not sure about the Mk. 2 boats, hopefully they fixed the minor gelcoat chipping issues of the Mk. 1. For those with other boats we're really looking at sponsorship dollars.

This still doesn't help Tad with his problems. Option are to grind out the gelcoat and redo, only to likely redo again in a few years, or move to paint, or move to a new boat. I like the pain idea but I'm not a pro and the coloring issue seems like a concern.

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Originally Posted by samc99us
So really we are looking at side hull protection? I'd say on an Infusion Mk. 1 that is important. Not sure about the Mk. 2 boats, hopefully they fixed the minor gelcoat chipping issues of the Mk. 1. For those with other boats we're really looking at sponsorship dollars.

This still doesn't help Tad with his problems. Option are to grind out the gelcoat and redo, only to likely redo again in a few years, or move to paint, or move to a new boat. I like the pain idea but I'm not a pro and the coloring issue seems like a concern.


Tad's problems are being remedied this week with a bottle of rubbing compound, a bottle of wax, and a 10" random orbit buffer.

Now if I can get a day without it raining - that would be ideal.

Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #261081
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you need a genuine "polisher" and not one of those random orbit buffers to accomplish anything. The buffer is decent for putting on wax and avoiding some swirls - but they typically don't have enough oomph to cut gelcoat (or paint).


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I've got a trip to harbor freight planned. They have a 7" polisher on sale for like $30 that has my name written on it.

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I bought a Makita a few years ago, it was a little pricey but seemed to be well worth it compared to the HF stuff.

Re: Cat Refinishing--What's your take? [Re: bacho] #261090
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Originally Posted by bacho
I bought a Makita a few years ago, it was a little pricey but seemed to be well worth it compared to the HF stuff.


HF stuff is good enough to use infrequently. I'll use this thing maybe twice a year and the rest of the time it will spend its life in a shed. Even if it does die, I can buy 4 of them before I get to the price of a makita.

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