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New Cat #263873
09/15/13 08:08 PM
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Minneapolis
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Hello all, I am getting into cat racing up in the mid west. I have an older Nacra 5.8. But I cant keep up with the newer cats. I am considering a new cat. But what version? I am a bigger guy, and I solo most of the time. But do want to have a crew on occasion. What are the suggestions.


Dave Foster
Minneapolis
Nacra F16
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Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263884
09/15/13 10:43 PM
09/15/13 10:43 PM
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Northfield Mn
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I'll sell ya a Viper.


I'm boatless.
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263888
09/16/13 02:12 AM
09/16/13 02:12 AM
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Kingston SE South Australia
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New Nacra 5.8 is heaps lighter & faster than your boat just the ackermans on the rudders improve things a lot, others F18, Nacra 17 with curved boards, F16, how much wind? if lighter when you solo find Rick's old Taipan 5.7 from his training video, awesome boat


Jeff Southall
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Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263893
09/16/13 05:59 AM
09/16/13 05:59 AM
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Sebring, Florida.
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Originally Posted by Mpls_Nacra
Hello all, I am getting into cat racing up in the mid west. I have an older Nacra 5.8. But I cant keep up with the newer cats. I am considering a new cat. But what version? I am a bigger guy, and I solo most of the time. But do want to have a crew on occasion. What are the suggestions.


Are you going to race with the new boat? If you are going to race, and you'll be solo a lot, you'd need to go with a class that allows you to race solo, the F16 is one. But if you are not going to race much, you could get a F18, sail it solo when not racing, but you'll need to find crew to race.

The F16 is the only class that allows you to race solo or with crew. It's also quite a bit lighter than the F18 (230 lbs. vs. 395) so it's a bit easier to move about on the beach when you are solo.


Blade F16
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Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263904
09/16/13 07:53 AM
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Northfield Mn
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There is zero cat racing in Minnesota for anything other than a H16, and then you basically need to know someone on that lake.

The Lake Waconia Catamaran Club lost their spot this year unfortunately.

Hobie Fleet 444 will let anyone sail with them, but aren't a racing fleet. Based out of Lake City. www.fleet444.com

If you want to race Wisconsin is the closest for non-Hobie only racing. www.crawsailing.org Mostly F16/18's.

We've got a shitton of water, but no racing in Minnesota currently.


I'm boatless.
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263914
09/16/13 08:54 AM
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Sebring, Florida.
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Hey, the water's getting hard and hockey season is about to start anyway! I saw it was 30 this morning in International Falls! Ouch! It'll be 92 down here today Carl, come on down!


Blade F16
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Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263915
09/16/13 08:55 AM
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Portland, Maine
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Dude I froze my proverbial butt off in SF last week and it was 65F with a freezing breeze.

Can't imagine sailing/living up north.

Re: New Cat [Re: ThunderMuffin] #263919
09/16/13 09:26 AM
09/16/13 09:26 AM
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South Carolina
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Originally Posted by Undecided
Dude I froze my proverbial butt off in SF last week and it was 65F with a freezing breeze.

Can't imagine sailing/living up north.


They make good money selling sweatshirts in town there...


Jake Kohl
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263928
09/16/13 11:10 AM
09/16/13 11:10 AM
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Northfield Mn
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40 this morning, a bit chilly....


I'm boatless.
Re: New Cat [Re: Jake] #263933
09/16/13 12:15 PM
09/16/13 12:15 PM
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Naples, FL
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Originally Posted by Jake
They make good money selling sweatshirts in town there...


Are those "sweatshirts" the things with the long sleeves but don't list their SPF value? Hmmm... have to keep an eye out for them...


Jay

Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263937
09/16/13 12:24 PM
09/16/13 12:24 PM
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Sebring, Florida.
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Well Karl, come on down! It's 85 out back right now, air and water temp about the same. I just came in from spending an hour out blasting around on my little lake, but there's a big line of thunderstorms coming from the east in a few minutes, it was fun while it lasted.


Blade F16
#777
Re: New Cat [Re: Timbo] #263968
09/16/13 05:23 PM
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Minneapolis
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I am planning to race the boat. I know I'll have to travel to WI for the action. I am stuck on the up sides of the F16 vs F17 vs F18. I know I'll need crew with the F18. but cost point is better than the F 16.

thx


Dave Foster
Minneapolis
Nacra F16
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263974
09/16/13 06:46 PM
09/16/13 06:46 PM
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White Bear Lake, MN
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We race Nacra's, ARC22's and Supercats every week on White Bear. Come on over.

Tom G

Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #263984
09/16/13 08:34 PM
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Minneapolis
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Tom, how can I get a hold of you?


Dave Foster
Minneapolis
Nacra F16
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264043
09/17/13 11:56 AM
09/17/13 11:56 AM
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White Bear Lake, MN
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Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264206
09/18/13 07:17 PM
09/18/13 07:17 PM
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Northfield Mn
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Dave I might have a 09 Viper available that is really reasonably priced. It's not mine, but a customers. Andy called me today looking for a used one, I'm assuming it was for you.


I'm boatless.
Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264214
09/19/13 05:29 AM
09/19/13 05:29 AM

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I've got one for sale in the classifieds

Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264217
09/19/13 06:30 AM
09/19/13 06:30 AM
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Greenville SC
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Originally Posted by Mpls_Nacra
I am planning to race the boat. I know I'll have to travel to WI for the action. I am stuck on the up sides of the F16 vs F17 vs F18. I know I'll need crew with the F18. but cost point is better than the F 16.

thx


The F16 cost is cheaper than crew.

Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264255
09/19/13 09:54 AM
09/19/13 09:54 AM
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Daytona Beach Florida
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Define "bigger guy"? At a certain point you can carry weights and race a H16 solo. The real question is spin or no spin.

Re: New Cat [Re: Mpls_Nacra] #264320
09/19/13 04:07 PM
09/19/13 04:07 PM

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FYI Dave in Minnesota: The F16 is a nice boat, even considering one myself right now, but me and about 9 other guys in Southern MN/Northern Iowa/Eastern SD have Hobie 17s and its a single hander but you can put the wife on there for bombing around and we race about once a month within 3 hours of you mostly. PLUS, we have tried (albeit not as successfully this year) to ensure ourselve on the very coridial Wisconsin guys at Madison once a year. Price point will be a bit (**** ton as Karlos says) lower on the Hobie 17 and we have a one design fleet in place, close by. smile

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