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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #264200
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I wonder why Spithill can't win a start...?

It's a good thing the RC called race two today, or this AC would be over now. ETNZ was going to roll them right off the line, and somehow Jimmy couldn't see that coming?


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Have they won a start with Ben on the boat???

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Probably not a good idea to hold back. Conditions are rough, these boats may not hold together much longer.

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Originally Posted by H17cat
Probably not a good idea to hold back. Conditions are rough, these boats may not hold together much longer.


BINGO!


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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: brucat] #264209
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Originally Posted by brucat
Have they won a start with Ben on the boat???

Mike


Yes...that artfully pressed way under the "published" layline to the mark when NZ said to hell with this...it's too far. Oracle then shot upwind and held NZ up until about 6 seconds after the start. That was masterful.

I thought they had them nailed in the race before this one over top while NZ was slow trying to get back to the mark. I thought they pulled the trigger too late and lost the advantage.


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Honestly -I think team O should have a more agressive person at the helm to start with years of experience racing cats in large competative fleets ---many of us would do better at starting ---One skipper is the agressor -the other passive.

In Example--the last race which was called off --team N used full speed twice sailing at team o creating a gap then drove over the top at the start--something team O has never done.

Also in crossing situations and other close quarter situations team O perfers to not mix it up but always seems to back off and sail away ---You must be able to mix it up and hang right with the competition .

It is hard to watch at times --I think O has an equal or superior boat design.

Lets hope they can be more aggresive at the starts and on the course and win the next two races. Congrats to team N ON SUPERB training and sailing skills.

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WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR!??! NO!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Undecided
WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR!??! NO!!!!!!


Umm...huh?


oooohhhhhh....Animal House. Nice. I took customers out last night and I'm a little foggier than usual this morning.


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Of all people Jake - I figured that you would get the reference. You disappoint me.

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On this day, I have a special message for Oracle Team USA:


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Key difference:

Kenny tries to connect what you see in this regatta to what he calls "normal" boats/sails/racing. Clearly, this can be irritating when he gets it wrong.

Jobson wastes no opportunity to tell you that he won (as a tactician, who always take credit for everything) this event nearly 40 years ago. This is irritating 110% of the time.

Mike

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Originally Posted by Carl
Honestly -I think team O should have a more agressive person at the helm to start with years of experience racing cats in large competative fleets ---many of us would do better at starting.



Do you really think many of us that are sitting on the sidelines would do a better job? Just how much experience do you have on wing sailed foiling catamarans?

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I know I for one could luff up at speed and hit ETNZ pretty hard! Maybe even put a huge hole in their stupid flying boat, take my penalty turn and sail away!

;^)

HIT HIM JIMMY!!

What have you got to lose at this point? It's not like they are going to use these boats ever again!

What is it the NASCAR guys say?

"Rubbin's Racing!"

Give him the Darlington Stripe!


Oh, and on the stupid comments by Kenny and Garry, remember, they are speaking to an equally stupid audience of 90% mono racers or non-sailors. What did you expect?


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Originally Posted by bacho
Originally Posted by Carl
Honestly -I think team O should have a more agressive person at the helm to start with years of experience racing cats in large competative fleets ---many of us would do better at starting.


Do you really think many of us that are sitting on the sidelines would do a better job? Just how much experience do you have on wing sailed foiling catamarans?


NOPE!!!! And based on the performance of the "multihull" skipper in the AC45 teams ETNZL and OTUSA have the top two skippers getting the job done! Jimmy and team are just getting out sailed.

For those that constantly cry about these mono guys getting it wrong, you do realize how little you all race and how much time you spend here, right?

And Tad, I don't know what your beef is with Grant and Dean they are wonderfully pleasant chaps, maybe it's you.



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I don't really have a problem with Dean - other than the fact that I don't think he's very charismatic. He's hard to connect to as an profession athlete. He's a very talented sailor and I can really respect that. Jimmy is just much more personable and likable I think.

Dalton has a long history of shooting off at the mouth. He's perpetually going on and on about what he sees as injustices/mistakes/whatever. He just never seems happy and I wonder why he ever entered in the first place if he's so pissed off with the whole spectacle.

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