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Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... #269886
03/05/14 06:57 PM
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Picture of the front of my house, March 5th, 2014.

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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #269888
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Weather is not climate.

Globally, January was the fourth-warmest on record.

But my house looks like that, too. We haven't seen the ground since December 15, and aren't likely to for another few weeks. Piles at the end of the driveway are still over my head.

Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: mbounds] #269890
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Well thanks Matt, and you lefty's prefer to use the term 'Climate Change'. Global warming my a$$. The temp fluctuates, it has even before man burned fossil fuels, hell, before man even existed!

Maybe you could verify this one for me,
The great lakes have had more ice on them than in 30+years,
it's the coldest temp winters in the Midwest in over 30+ years,
and globally, the planet hasn't warmed in at least 15years.

?



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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: mbounds] #269892
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Weather is not climate.

Globally, January was the fourth-warmest on record.

But my house looks like that, too. We haven't seen the ground since December 15, and aren't likely to for another few weeks. Piles at the end of the driveway are still over my head.


The fourth warmest on record? Where, globally? Not around here it wasnsn't.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #269894
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And Matt,

It is my assumption that you were in fact a liberal, basing it solely on the conversatin I was at in Racine WI last year, when you were explaining politics to that Canadian woman, and saying Karl was right a conservative, etc.
I was laughing inside, thinking that although it's not a competition, Karl is to the left of me!

If I assumed this wrong, my apologies,

If not, I'll pray for the USA, and you too.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #269896
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Ooo! Ooo! This is fun.

Here's some very real evidence that the amount of snow you experience at your house might not be the most scientific way to measure global temperature. This file shows very clearly how the surface temperatures have been increasing in our industrial age. NASA animated MP4 File

Also note that increasing temperatures lead to shifting climate patterns and instability in between...so yeah, you might get some bouts of colder than normal between the slightly warmer than normal stuff.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #269898
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Todd - Here is one source (there are many others) for the "January 2014 4th warmest on record" statement - http://www.businessinsider.com/january-global-record-temps-2014-2

While I was in Australia in January/February, the news was all about the heat wave in South Australia - temps in Adelaide were in the high 40C range (that's way over 100F). Meanwhile in Detroit, they were getting slammed with more snow and cold. Like I said, weather (local, short term) is not climate (global, long term). And until you recognize the difference, you'll never understand that local extremes (both hot and cold) are a result of a warming climate.

Yes, the ice cover on the great lakes hasn't been like this since 1979 - but that's not that unusual. Last year was completely the opposite. Humans have very short memories when compared to climatic and geologic time. Climate change (whether man-made or not) tends to happen over time periods greater than one person's lifetime.

But you are woefully ignorant if you think the world has not heated up in the last 15 years:
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I don't wear politics or religion on my shirtsleeves (I prefer to think of myself as a scientific method agnostic, if you must know), and while I appreciate the gesture, I don't need you to pray for me - but go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

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For What It's Worth

http://news.yahoo.com/antarctica-storm-photo-180230536.html

I began instructing middle schoolers in "Environmental Studies" shortly after Yvon Chouinard had his work on rising sea levels published in Surfer magazine (1985). We began comparing his claims with current events and became more alarmed between 1986 and 2008.

While I was in Miami, there was an ice storm on the Gulf Coast. We have NEVER had an ice storm in sixty-five years along the coast, but we have had our share of tropical lows. The Aussie 18s are going off in Sydney Harbor in unusual weather...

Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #269904
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Winter has been very mild in Europe, in fact it's the mildest one recorded so far.
This weekend we will see temperatures of 19 Celsius, which is unheard of at this time of year (not that I'm complaining!).

Although this article is about Scandinavia, I think it counts for northern Europe as a whole :
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/10/polar-vortex-us-mild-weather-scandinavia

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Jesus facking Christ. Not this again.


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That looks like a horrible place to live to me, climate change or not.

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Todd continues to prove he's a Climate Buffoon.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Karl_Brogger] #269930
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Jesus facking Christ. Not this again.


You took the words right out of my mouth...no pun intended.


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I don't know about your part of the country, but here
in Las Vegas last January it was near 70-F for a Lot
of the month , (it's usually in the 50's-F).

Still too Cold for me to go sailing, so i kinda don't
get the point of this Thread ? Some Nut-case, posts a
picture of snow in his front yard, and everyone wants
to fight over it ??

Some of you need to get laid ; ladies
are cheap here in Vegas, so do our economy some good and
Come get a Blow-job !! HeHe...

Bille

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Originally Posted by RickWhite


That cartoon is so true.

I was pointing out that overall we are having the coldest/longest winter in over 30 yeares around here.

And, the climate has changed drastically, the most drastic however was before man and before the industrial age.

Do I think the climate changes? Yes.
Do I think there needs to be some regulation as far as industrial polutants a large factory produces? Have you been to PROC lately?


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Originally Posted by Bille
I don't know about your part of the country, but here
in Las Vegas last January it was near 70-F for a Lot
of the month , (it's usually in the 50's-F).

Still too Cold for me to go sailing, so i kinda don't
get the point of this Thread ? Some Nut-case, posts a
picture of snow in his front yard, and everyone wants
to fight over it ??

Some of you need to get laid ; ladies
are cheap here in Vegas, so do our economy some good and
Come get a Blow-job !! HeHe...

Bille


So I'm the nutcase?
The photo wasn't menat to spark any debate whatsoever. I was pointing out we are having a colder, more snowfall winter this year, and the 4 winters I've been here, usually there is little if any snow on the ground by the date of that picture.



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yeah, I'm having trouble shoveling all this sunshine off my driveway. It's rough.

Light air sailing Saturday. Gonna fly the screecher and see what happens.

By the way, what is the difference (or not) between:

Code 0
Code 1
Screecher
Hooter
Studdingsail
Chupacabra
Spanker
Skysail
Moonraker
Womper


(I think I know the last few)


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Originally Posted by Todd_Sails

The photo wasn't menat to spark any debate whatsoever.



Oh come on Todd, the title of the post is "Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic..." You got exactly the reaction you were looking for. Boredom... it's a drag.


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