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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Pirate] #270004
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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: hobie1616] #270019
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I had you all wrong Todd. You and the teabaggers are scholars.

"Nonsense is nonsense, but the history of nonsense is scholarship." As part of his scholarship, Proctor says he "watches Fox News all the time."

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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #270078
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What can you do individually?
recycle everything you can

Grow a garden

Compost your food trash

build a sistern or water catchment to water your garden

dont plant a yardful of grass, naturalize your yard limiting the amount of gas operated lawn equipment and watering you will have to do.

Keep it going, what other smart ideas do you have? we can debate global warming all day, but we could turn this post into a productive one with some good ideas just as easy

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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: dave mosley] #270079
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I recycle because I'm a cheapskate. I know my taxes are paying wages over at the recycle center, so I send everything I can over there to keep them busy.

We've got the single container recycle program, so I'm sure that they're busy sorting out all the stuff I pack in my 65 gallon container. What stinks is they don't want styrofoam (egg containers, etc) or anything with food on it (hello?) Good thing I have a dog to clean up my food wrappers before recycling smile


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: dave mosley] #270086
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Originally Posted by dave mosley
What can you do individually?
recycle everything you can

Grow a garden

Compost your food trash

build a sistern or water catchment to water your garden

dont plant a yardful of grass, naturalize your yard limiting the amount of gas operated lawn equipment and watering you will have to do.

Keep it going, what other smart ideas do you have? we can debate global warming all day, but we could turn this post into a productive one with some good ideas just as easy

Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: dave mosley] #270087
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Originally Posted by dave mosley
What can you do individually?
recycle everything you can

Grow a garden

Compost your food trash

build a sistern or water catchment to water your garden

dont plant a yardful of grass, naturalize your yard limiting the amount of gas operated lawn equipment and watering you will have to do.

Keep it going, what other smart ideas do you have? we can debate global warming all day, but we could turn this post into a productive one with some good ideas just as easy


NICE ; + 1 more !!

Your last line was the Best ; i think the climate-change
guys would have a Better argument, if they just stayed
with the prospect that the earth would be better off without
pollution in the air & water, (Humans would live Longer) if
we made some changes !!

Bille

Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Bille] #270110
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http://www.raingutterprosinc.com/

I read somewhere recently that a business owner in Salt Lake City was fined for capturing rain water from the roof of the business and used to supplement his water needs but couldn't find any more info. In searching, however, I did find this link above. Kudos to LA for doing the right thing here.
The new construction of my house will include rain water collection and storage to be used for all toilet flushing and washing. I lived in the USVI back in the 90's and my house/hut had a water collection system with a systern under the house. No matter what end of the political spectrum each of us likes to categorize ourselves, I'm sure we all agree on taking care of the environment.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: TeamChums] #270111
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Wrong link, sorry.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: TeamChums] #270112
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the radio recently reported that Las Vegas (outside the strip) was the most water efficient city in US, re-purposing almost 94% of its water.

Of course, Florida was the least water efficient state. It amazed the engineers that the state gets an average of 4 feet of rainfall annually, but we still have lawn watering, and Miami / Palm beach and Tampa/Clearwater are often in severe water restrictions.

But, at least the water management district has plans for more water storage. I believe their latest plan involves some 14,000 acres on the Caloosahatchee to be turned into a shallow lake for water to be used during the dry season.

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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #270357
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Folks, I'd just like to share this 'selfie' from Wind Lake, in Wind Lake WI. I took yesterday. The Ice is still about 2.5 feet think:

[Linked Image]

This spot is about 25 miles SW of Milwaukee WI.

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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: dave mosley] #270358
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Originally Posted by dave mosley
What can you do individually?
recycle everything you can

Grow a garden

Compost your food trash

build a sistern or water catchment to water your garden

dont plant a yardful of grass, naturalize your yard limiting the amount of gas operated lawn equipment and watering you will have to do.

Keep it going, what other smart ideas do you have? we can debate global warming all day, but we could turn this post into a productive one with some good ideas just as easy


Thanks, and I agree Dave. I didn't intend it to bet into a pissing match about 'climate change'. I was only pointing out that in the Midwest, are having a colder than average winter.
Yes, climate changes, it always has, and it always will.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #270362
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Isn't that a Black Helicopter in the background?
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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: hobie1616] #270364
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or a 777 ?


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: waterbug_wpb] #270377
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Back on Maui for awhile. They still have a long way to go here for recycling. Still no paper and cardboard recovery. Finally got plastic, can, and glass pick up but requires different containers. They have a lot to do, compared to Seattle. You would think people living on an Island would do a better job.

Hey 1616, any ideas on how to improve? Are they still shipping garbage to Oregon, via barge?

Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Todd_Sails] #270381
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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: Tony_F18] #270867
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Huge Wave in Pacific Ocean About to Hit West Coast Will Have Global Impacts

An enormous wave now centered at 500 feet deep along the equator south of Hawaii is silently moving below the surface towards the west coast of the Americas.
This wave, called a Kelvin wave, took four years to build. It has just started to breach the surface. It is so large that it has substantially raised the height of the sea surface for thousands of miles along the equator in the central Pacific ocean. As it pushes towards the west coast it will impact global ocean currents and weather.

Stronger than normal trade winds drove water westward in the equatorial Pacific ocean, building a large deep pool of exceptionally warm water in the western Pacific ocean. The height of the sea surface is normally about 0.5m (about one and a half feet) higher in the western Pacific than the eastern Pacific at the equator because of the warm pool. This is part of a normal cycle in the ocean that, according to climate models, has been amplified by warming by greenhouse gases produced by human activities. Four years is unusually long in this normal cycle, allowing more time to develop an exceptionally large, deep pool of warm water. Sea level was about 4 inches higher than normal before it began moving east.

The speeding up of the trade winds over the past 15 years has deepened the warm pool leading to the development of stronger and stronger November typhoons in the Philippines. Typhoon Haiyan, which devastated the Philippines this November, was the strongest typhoon in Philippine history and in contention for the strongest recorded on earth. Its explosive development was enabled by the deep warm pool.

This January very intense winter storms, fueled by outbreaks of Siberian air interacting with warmer than normal waters in the western Pacific, developed large westerly wind fields that reached deep into the tropics. These westerly winds unleashed the warm pool and it began moving east with the winds. When the west winds stopped, the sea surface height difference between the eastern and western Pacific continued to drive it east.

As the Kelvin wave and the warm pool moves east it warms the air over the central Pacific lowering the air pressure near Tahiti. At the same time, the water near Darwin Australia may cool a little as the warm pool moves away from its normal center near Indonesia. The air pressure rises are Darwin. The difference in air pressure, normalized for seasonal effects, between Tahiti and Darwin, called the Southern Oscillation Index has just turned significantly negative. If this trend continues, it will be the classic sign of a developing El Nino event.

Global models are now in agreement that an El Nino is beginning. The spring months are the hardest months to make El Nino forecasts, but the size and strength of the Kelvin wave is so great this time that the forecast is almost surely correct. This Kelvin wave is bigger and stronger than the one that led to the "super El Nino" of 1997 - 1998.


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Re: Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic... [Re: hobie1616] #271036
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Your black helicopter picture PROVES global warming is FAKE,FAKE,FAKE! In fact, the glaciers are coming back--"Picture Proof!" --ICE IN HAWAII. I dare you prove my flawless logic is wrong.


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OMG ;
Ya got a Great sense of Humor !!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Jeff Peterson
Your black helicopter picture PROVES global warming is FAKE,FAKE,FAKE! In fact, the glaciers are coming back--"Picture Proof!" --ICE IN HAWAII. I dare you prove my flawless logic is wrong.

You're abbsooolutelllyyyy right!! There is ice in Hawaii.

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Oh No, the truth is starting to get out.....

Green Guru James Lovelock on Climate Change: I dont think anybody really knows whats happening. They just guess Lovelock Reverses Himself on Global Warming

http://www.climatedepot.com/2014/04...lock-reverses-himself-on-global-warming/




Lovelock, on BBC TV, slams the global warming claims including those of of the United Nations climate panel. 'They just guess. And a whole group of them meet together and encourage each others guesses.'

Lovelock was once one of the leading voices of climate alarm. See: 2006 Climate Shocker: Lovelock Predicted Global Warming Doom: 'Billions of us will die; few breeding pairs of people that survive will be in Arctic'

Fast Forward to April 2012: Gaia scientist James Lovelock reverses himself: I was alarmist about climate change & so was Gore! The problem is we dont know what the climate is doing. We thought we knew 20 years ago

Lovelock becomes UN IPCC's biggest critic: Green Guru Lovelock Slams UN IPCC & Greens: Whenever UN puts its finger in it seems to become a mess The green religion is now taking over from the Christian religion -- James Lovelock: ''IPCC is too politicized & too internalized' -- On Green religion: 'I don't think people have noticed that, but it's got all the sort of terms that religions use. The greens use guilt. You can't win people round by saying they are guilty for putting CO2 in the air'



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