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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Bille] #271332
04/11/14 05:14 PM
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There are foiling windsurfers now, and foiling kite boards, that would be easier and cheaper than building a new 15 foot foiler.


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Timbo] #271353
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Originally Posted by Timbo
There are foiling windsurfers now, and foiling kite boards, that would be easier and cheaper than building a new 15 foot foiler.


YEP !!

Bille

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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Bille] #271392
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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: orphan] #271398
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well...$15k euros.. $21-$22k USD plus delivery still puts it in A-cat territory.

From a quick glance, it really looks like the daggerboards are far to aft for stable foiling and it, well...it just doesn't look that fast.


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Jake] #271414
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Originally Posted by Jake

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From a quick glance, it really looks like the daggerboards are far to aft for stable foiling and it, well...it just doesn't look that fast.


At first glance, i agreed with Ya ; then i read the article
and found out Why it works, and Why he went with that design.

Still TO0oo expensive though, not something an avarage-Joe
could afford ; and i think that's a : "BIG MISTAKE" , because
the guys Greed is gonna Cost him in sales. That thing could
be sold for Under $15-K, and still make a profit, if done
correctly.

Bille

Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Bille] #271417
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Originally Posted by Bille
Originally Posted by Jake

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From a quick glance, it really looks like the daggerboards are far to aft for stable foiling and it, well...it just doesn't look that fast.


At first glance, i agreed with Ya ; then i read the article
and found out Why it works, and Why he went with that design.

Still TO0oo expensive though, not something an avarage-Joe
could afford ; and i think that's a : "BIG MISTAKE" , because
the guys Greed is gonna Cost him in sales. That thing could
be sold for Under $15-K, and still make a profit, if done
correctly.

Bille


For the most part, only Hobie has managed to still offer a non-foiling catamaran under $15k that can be sailed with a trapeze.

Now look what you've done, I came to his defense. grin


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Bille] #271418
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T2 is at $7900


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: rehmbo] #271421
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Originally Posted by rehmbo
T2 is at $7900


Yep, and you can keep your milk fresh in it. laugh


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Jake] #271438
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Originally Posted by Jake

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For the most part, only Hobie has managed to still offer a non-foiling catamaran under $15k that can be sailed with a trapeze.
...


YEP !!
I called & asked a San Diego dealer today, how much for a New
Hobie-16 ; was close to $10-K , and a good deal for what
Ya get !! That came without a trailer though, something i
could get on Craigslist for $300 or less,
(with a few wooden & carpet Mods)for $50 more.

OK -- maybe a bit more carbon in the foiling Cat ; but
it's 2-ft shorter than the Hobie-16. Still say
a 14-ft foiling cat should go for under $15-K .

Bille

Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Jake] #271441
04/15/14 07:28 AM
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What do you mean by "for the most part"?

CFI will build you a custom Isotope (including sails) for $12.6k.

Originally Posted by Jake
For the most part, only Hobie has managed to still offer a non-foiling catamaran under $15k that can be sailed with a trapeze.

Last edited by Isotope42; 04/15/14 07:28 AM.
Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Isotope235] #271442
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Originally Posted by Isotope42
What do you mean by "for the most part"?

CFI will build you a custom Isotope (including sails) for $12.6k.

Originally Posted by Jake
For the most part, only Hobie has managed to still offer a non-foiling catamaran under $15k that can be sailed with a trapeze.


"for the most part" as in, I knew there are are outliers. Although, I didn't realize you could still buy an Isotope.


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Re: Scheurer G7 -- another foiling design, that can be done solo [Re: Bille] #271443
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I don't really think it's fair to compare the stunt to any Hobie product. I would guess that the profit margins on all of these boats are quite a bit lower than you would think.

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