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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277345
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First to Fly on Bermudan Waters

12:1 mainsheet on the Carbon 20? Really? Sir Ben needs to hit the gym? smile


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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277348
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Originally Posted by P.M.
First to Fly on Bermudan Waters

12:1 mainsheet on the Carbon 20? Really? Sir Ben needs to hit the gym? smile


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heck, we're running 10:1 on the F18s. That thing has considerably more main sail area and is probably a lot more sensitive to high angle apparent winds. I would say 12:1 is probably about right.


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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: Jake] #277360
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by P.M.
First to Fly on Bermudan Waters

12:1 mainsheet on the Carbon 20? Really? Sir Ben needs to hit the gym? smile


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heck, we're running 10:1 on the F18s. That thing has considerably more main sail area and is probably a lot more sensitive to high angle apparent winds. I would say 12:1 is probably about right.


12:1 on that main! Yes more please. I too used to think 10:1 was ridiculous for an F18 then I figured out how to trim it properly, 10:1 is delightful.


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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277361
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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: David Ingram] #277362
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
then I figured out how to trim it properly, 10:1 is delightful.


what were you doing wrong?

what are you now doing (right)?

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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: ] #277364
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Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by David Ingram
then I figured out how to trim it properly, 10:1 is delightful.


what were you doing wrong?

what are you now doing (right)?


Not speaking for Dave, but a wise man once told me "half as much, twice as often". More purchase would support that nicely.


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Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277365
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Pretty sure that the N17's are using 12:1.

Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: ] #277366
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Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by David Ingram
then I figured out how to trim it properly, 10:1 is delightful.


what were you doing wrong?

what are you now doing (right)?


Not sheeting nearly hard enough upwind. It's a pretty common fault. My first training session with Red Gear on my A-cat...Robbie is screaming at me with a bullhorn :

"Sheet!"...."Sheet!"....."More!"...."MORE!"....{indiscernible mumbling}..."MOOORRRRE SHEEEEEET!"...."there."

I thought my a-cat was going to split in two but once the echos of the bullhorn subsided in my head I couldn't believe the angle and speed with which I was closing in on A-mark. That price of training had just become an incredible investment.


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Spot on Jake and Jeff, and I misspoke earlier, I didn't figure it out on my own I was freaky taught/yelled at.



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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277381
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Nog really AC related but painful video nonetheless.

Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: David Ingram] #277434
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good info
thanks all who responded to the question
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Spot on Jake and Jeff, and I misspoke earlier, I didn't figure it out on my own I was freaky taught/yelled at.


Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277435
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Re: AC72 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277453
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Beating Philip to the linkage...

Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: P.M.] #277454
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This is great news...

Re: AC62 Oracle Team USA Spaceship has landed [Re: ThunderMuffin] #277513
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Interesting organizational tips on how to leverage major sailing events at the local level.

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/2015/02/09/americas-cup-means-dinghy-sailing-mean/


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