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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280888
10/23/15 01:43 PM
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Online coverage in general was much better a few years ago. It's not just stories.

Back on topic, congrats to all the sailors and winners this week!

Mike

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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280889
10/23/15 02:58 PM
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Sarah and Mathew win the last race and seal the deal. They are the 2015 F18 North American Champions.

Re: F18 Americas [Re: brucat] #280890
10/23/15 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat
Online coverage in general was much better a few years ago. It's not just stories.

Back on topic, congrats to all the sailors and winners this week!

Mike


The Facebook coverage has been pretty much on par with the coverage we've had in the past. If you want professional coverage you have to pay for it and it's expensive and most hosts can't afford it when the budget is just entry fees and some sponsorship money. In the past there may have been more motivation to spring for high end coverage in the hopes of wooing more sponsors and when that didn't pan out the coverage evolved into what we have today.

Case in point, the A-Cat championship spent several thousand dollars on the A-cat coverage and they were able to afford it because they got a grant from the city. Most championships don't have that kind of assistance.



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Re: F18 Americas [Re: mikekrantz] #280891
10/23/15 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Sarah and Mathew win the last race and seal the deal. They are the 2015 F18 North American Champions.


Wow! Congratulations!


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280892
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Facebook would be something. Not seeing an obvious link to that here or on the event website?

Mike

Re: F18 Americas [Re: mikekrantz] #280893
10/23/15 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Sarah and Mathew win the last race and seal the deal. They are the 2015 F18 North American Champions.


Congrats to Sarah and Matt! They are 'kids' but kicking butt in a fleet loaded with very talented adults! But, boy do I feel old now!

And Mike, I got a ride (twice) on a F20C over in Tel Aviv, with our own Opher (thanks Opher!) who took me out on his boat on two layovers there.

What a ride! I didn't realize the boat is 10' wide, which makes a huge difference going downwind in good wind and big swells. It's very stable. Opher was surfing down the bigger swells and we were having a great ride, upwind and down.

Will we see a of F20C's in the USA any time soon? I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea. Perhaps the 10' width (hauling issues) and price are keeping them down in numbers?

Sorry for the thread creep, and Congratulations again to Sarah and Matt!


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: brucat] #280896
10/24/15 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brucat
Facebook would be something. Not seeing an obvious link to that here or on the event website?

Mike


https://www.facebook.com/charlotteh...MzBhMGNjMDZkMDRlNDEzYmEwMWVjODM4ODUyZiJ9

It's hard for me to get after volunteers Mike.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280904
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Thanks for the link. I didn't see much there after Day 1, but I'm not the world's greatest FB user.

I would certainly hope you wouldn't be harsh on your volunteers.

Mike

Re: F18 Americas [Re: brucat] #280905
10/26/15 08:40 AM
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I wonder if there would be any interest from the local vocational tech schools which have a media department... You think those kids would be out looking for projects..

Donate a drone or two and you'd probably have a full production team out there...


Jay

Re: F18 Americas [Re: Timbo] #280909
10/26/15 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo

And Mike, I got a ride (twice) on a F20C over in Tel Aviv, with our own Opher (thanks Opher!) who took me out on his boat on two layovers there.


I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea.



You can make the same statement about the SC22 and ask the same question and I bet you the answers are pretty darn similar.

How come you don't have one Tim?


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: David Ingram] #280911
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Originally Posted by David Ingram

You can make the same statement about the SC22 and ask the same question and I bet you the answers are pretty darn similar.


Youth
Money
Time

Pick 2


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: David Ingram] #280913
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Timbo

And Mike, I got a ride (twice) on a F20C over in Tel Aviv, with our own Opher (thanks Opher!) who took me out on his boat on two layovers there.


I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea.



You can make the same statement about the SC22 and ask the same question and I bet you the answers are pretty darn similar.

How come you don't have one Tim?


If Nacra would accept 10 horses, 7 dogs, and 4 kids in trade, I'd have one!


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280914
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You have ten hay burners? I've always liked you, but you're an idiot Tim. laugh


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: Karl_Brogger] #280916
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
You have ten hay burners? I've always liked you, but you're an idiot Tim. laugh


You missed a comma.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280918
10/27/15 05:34 AM
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After idiot? Or after but?


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: Timbo] #280919
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Originally Posted by Timbo

If Nacra would accept 10 horses, 7 dogs, and 4 kids in trade, I'd have one!


Ah the old I have too much money excuse.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: David Ingram] #280925
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Timbo

If Nacra would accept 10 horses, 7 dogs, and 4 kids in trade, I'd have one!


Ah the old I have too much money excuse.


If I had too much money, I'd have too many boats too, right?

It's the old "My wife spends too much money on my 4 kids" excuse.

How many kids do you and Karl have, combined?

How many kids have you two put through college?

I suppose I could have pulled them out of college just so I could buy a brand new F20C, but I doubt if they'd crew for me...

Until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes, don't try to tell him you know better. You don't know schidt.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: Timbo] #280928
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Originally Posted by Timbo

If I had too much money, I'd have too many boats too, right?

It's the old "My wife spends too much money on my 4 kids" excuse.

How many kids do you and Karl have, combined?

How many kids have you two put through college?

I suppose I could have pulled them out of college just so I could buy a brand new F20C, but I doubt if they'd crew for me...

Until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes, don't try to tell him you know better. You don't know schidt.


Tim you chose your life just like I did and nobody forced you get married and have 4 kids. You clearly make more $$ than most on this forum and when you cry poor it kinda has an odor. Don't blame your wife and kids for you not being able to get a toy or going to regatta's if you really wanted it I'm confident you could sort it out. And when you ask questions like 'how come more people don't have an expensive toy that consumes a significant amount of off time and is kind of a hassle?' Ask yourself the same question and maybe, just maybe think to yourself that other people may have the same obligations you do. Well, except for the horses that's just stupid.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: jkkartz1] #280929
10/28/15 09:41 AM
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Yeah, I get it Dave, but this sport seems to have a lot of 'Dual Income No Kids' (DINK's) at the upper levels of competition.

I thought the F20C would be more popular here in the States, perhaps it's the trailering hassle with the 10' beam, kind of like the Tornado issues.


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Re: F18 Americas [Re: Timbo] #280930
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Not so fast... I have 2 kids, 2 grand kids, put my daughter through college, and had big property with horses through all of it. Just went to my first F18 nationals at 53, finished 14th. Life is what you make it, its about priorities and living within your means. We down sized after kids to go sailing and be healthy.

My pickup is paid for... most people spend more on their vehicle than I spend on sailing. Priorities I say. BTW... are you teaching those kids to sail?

PS. you know those guys who stay up all night to get you off the gate on time? Yeah hotshot, keep your bows down.

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