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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282530
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Whats wrong with Floaters versus Flyers?


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Mark Schneider] #282532
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Whats wrong with Floaters versus Flyers?


For starters, a "floater" is an extra splash of liquor on top of your mixed drink and is usually offered in the kind of Florida Keys establishment that would employ an overweight, aging, grumpy, female bartender that smokes far too much.

And Flyer is a brand/model of A-cat....so pretty confusing.

I would rather not be called a floater.


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282533
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and let's face it. The foilers will likely BE the a-cat class, eventually. I do argue it will be much slower than how the Moth transitioned because a small single handed dinghy has a ton of similar boats where-as a 165lb single handed catamaran really doesn't have any competing boats of similar design.

With that being the case, we're really just talking about what to call the boats that aren't full-on foiling today so they can be broken out in the scores to keep things interesting for those of us that own those kinds of boats. We don't really need two designations. It's just a subset designation for scoring at larger a-cat events.


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Mark Schneider] #282534
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Whats wrong with Floaters versus Flyers?


Ummm, floaters are dead bodies found in the river

Or poopies


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282535
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How's about A-Cat? That's got a nice ring to it.


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: waterbug_wpb] #282570
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Whats wrong with Floaters versus Flyers?


Ummm, floaters are dead bodies found in the river

Or poopies


While cleaning pools, I had a different understanding of the word "floater".

Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282604
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I shot a video at the Worlds test event and got a look at the F1 in action, although there was'nt much action due to lack of wind cool


Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Tony_F18] #282605
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Hey, Tony, I saw after your vid another drone-vid from you; showing a kite in strong winds ??????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwmdWyosWcg


How much was the wind and what's the max drones can do nowadays?

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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282608
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I wouldn't put mine up in much more than 10 knots unless I could run with the wind. It just hammers through the juice too fast on my setup. I need better props, lower kv motors, and I need to bump the voltage up and I could get better flight times.

My first quad I could fly in in just about anything. But it didn't have fpv gear, two cameras, a gimbal, or landing gear.


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Karl_Brogger] #282609
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at first I was wondering what kinda boat you are talking about ...

Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I wouldn't put mine up in much more than 10 knots unless I could run with the wind. It just hammers through the juice too fast on my setup. I need better props, lower kv motors, and I need to bump the voltage up and I could get better flight times.

My first quad I could fly in in just about anything. But it didn't have fpv gear, two cameras, a gimbal, or landing gear.

Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282611
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I have a phantom 3 professional. It's rated to 21kts IIRC. I have only had it up in 15 or so so far. Totally stable in that. Not ready to try yet it over water in gusting 20+ though.

Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: northsea junkie] #282612
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Originally Posted by northsea junkie
Hey, Tony, I saw after your vid another drone-vid from you; showing a kite in strong winds ??????????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwmdWyosWcg


How much was the wind and what's the max drones can do nowadays?

Wind in the kitesurfing video was around 15-22kts, flying around was no problem and I could hand catch it without risk of losing too many fingers grin
The video below I shot at a race which got cancelled because of too much wind, there was around 27-35kts, I mainly did it to find the drone's limit.
Only one boat went out that day mainly because they travelled too far not to wink
Video is still very smooth even in these winds (watch the jib to see how much wind there was):
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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282613
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It's amazing what the gimbals do for the footage. I've got a DJI F550 that I run two cameras on. The flight camera is fixed, and the GoPro is on a gimbal. I can switch between the two and what comes back to the monitor. Flying through the gimbal is spooky. The on screen display is the only indicator that it is leaned over and you're fighting wind. When you fly through the fixed camera the image is all over the place.

Technology!


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Karl_Brogger] #282911
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oh man, if this doesn't make you want one, you need to check that you still have a pulse:

https://vimeo.com/170827596


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Re: The new DNA F1 A-cat [Re: Jake] #282935
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I'm taking the drone over to the Worlds tomorrow for some shots of the practice race laugh

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