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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #283964
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Air Horn Guy Busted, Offered Job

El Segundo has been under attack by the Air Horn Guy for the last six weeks. He was finally busted at 4 AM this morning.

The praise poured onto El Segundo Police Departments Facebook page from ecstatic residents.

They found the air horn guy!! wrote Jenn Birch.

Jennifer Phan wrote to another resident, It was this idiot thats been waking us up!

According to police, Phan and other residents can now sleep easy.

On Sunday, patrol officers heard the blare of an actuated air horn a device similar to a train horn as it shattered the pre-dawn silence of El Segundos west side at about 4 a.m., police said on Facebook.

Officers looked around and saw only one car on the street a little blue four-door, 2006 Chevrolet Aveo and pulled it over, said Sgt. Vincent Martinez.

In the back of the car, officers found an air tank with hoses connected to a device near the cars gas pedal, Martinez said. When an officer tried the cars horn, the sound of a big truck or train blasted from the diminutive hatchback, he said.


John W. Nuggent, brother of Ted Nugent, admitted he was the man who for the last six weeks had been driving down the street in the middle of the night waking up residents.

Nuggent has been contacted by the DNC and offered a job sounding his horn outside the White House after Trump takes office. The thinking is Trump may believe its the 3 AM phone call.

Not surprisingly, he looks a lot like Todd.

'They found the air horn guy!!' El Segundo residents rejoice after driver with air horn arrested


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #283965
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Melissa Zimdars, an assistant professor of communication at Merrimack College in Massachusetts has put together a list cataloging false, misleading, clickbait-y and satirical 'news' sources. She has divided them into four categories. Category one and two should be avoided by anyone who wants to cleanse their newsfeeds of misinformation. This, of course, excludes Todd, Schwantz, Chumlee, Sparky and Carl.

CATEGORY 1: Below is a list of fake, false, or regularly misleading websites that are shared on Facebook and social media. Some of these websites may rely on outrage by using distorted headlines and decontextualized or dubious information in order to generate likes, shares, and profits. These websites are categorized with the number 1 next to them.

CATEGORY 2: Some websites on this list may circulate misleading and/or potentially unreliable information, and they are marked with a 2.

CATEGORY 3: Other websites on this list sometimes use clickbait-y headlines and social media descriptions, and they are marked with a 3.

CATEGORY 4: Other sources on this list are purposefully fake with the intent of satire/comedy, which can offer important critical commentary on politics and society, but have the potential to be shared as actual/literal news. Im including them here, for now, because 1.) they have the potential to perpetuate misinformation based on different audience (mis)interpretations and 2.) to make sure anyone who reads a story by The Onion, for example, understands its purpose.



100PercentFedUp.com (2,3)
EnduringVision.com (1)
PakAlertPress.com
21stCenturyWire.com (2, 3)
FPRNradio.com
PoliticalBlindSpot.com
70news.wordpress.com (1)
The Free Thought Project (3)
PoliticalEars.com
Abcnews.com.co (1)
GeoEngineeringWatch.org
Politicalo (1)
ActivistPost.com (2, 3)
PoliticusUSA
Addicting Info (3)
GovtSlaves.info
PrisonPlanet.com
AmericanNews.com (1)
GulagBound.com
PrisonPlanet.tv
AnonNews.co (3)
HangTheBankers.com
Private-eye.co.uk (4)
Associated Media Coverage
HumansAreFree.com
ProjectVeritas
BeforeItsNews.com
Huzlers (4)
Being Liberal
IfYouOnlyNews
React 365
BigAmericanNews.com
Indecision Forever (1)
RealFarmacy.com
BigPZone.com
IJR (Independent Journal Review)
RealNewsRightNow.com (1, 4)
Bipartisan Report
InfoWars (1, 2)
RedFlagNews.com
BizPac Review
Infowars.com
Red State (3)
Blue Nation Review (2,3)
IntelliHub.com
Reductress (4)
Breitbart (3)
Inquisitor.com
RileNews.com (1, 4)
Cap News (4)
JonesReport.com
Satira Tribune
ChristWire.org (4)
LewRockwell.com
Sprotspickle.com (4)
Chronicle.su
Liberal America
The Blaze
CivicTribune.com (1)
LibertyTalk.fm
The Free Thought Project (3)
ClickHole.com (4)
LibertyUnyielding
Borowitz Report (4)
CoastToCoastAM.com (2)
LibertyVideos.org
The Onion (4)
CollectiveEvolution (3)
LMR/LibertyMovementRadio.com
The Other 98% (3)
ConsciousLifeNews.com (2)
MediaMass.net (1)
The Reporterz
ConservativeOutfitters.com (2)
MegynKelly.us (1)
The Stately Harold
ConspiracyWire (WideAwakeAmerica.com) (2)
MSNBC.com.co (1)
TheDailySheeple.com
CountdownToZeroTime.com (2)
MSNBC.website (1)
TheNewsNerd.com
CounterPsyOps.com
Naha Daily (4)
TheRunDownLive.com
National Report
TheUsPatriot.com
CreamBMP.com (1)
NationalReport.net (1)
TruthFrequencyRadio.com
DailyBuzzLive.com
NaturalNews.com
Twitchy.com (3)
DailyCurrant.com
NC Scooper
UnconfirmedSources.com
NCT (New Century Times)
Daily Wire
News Examiner
USA Supreme
DCClothesLine.com
News-Hound.com (1)
US.Blasting.News
Catsailor.com (1)
DCGazette.com (1)
NewsBiscuit.com (1)
US Uncut (3)
DerfMagazine.com
Newslo (1, 4)
VeteransToday.com
Disclose.tv
NewsMutiny.com (1, 4)
DrudgeReport.com.co (1)
Newswatch 28
WakingUpWisconsin.com
DuffleBlog.com (4)
Newswatch 33
Winning Democrats
DuhProgressive.com
NewsWire-24.com
WitScience.org
Embols.com
NoDisInfo.com
World Net Daily
Empire Herald
Now8News
World News Daily Report (4)
Empire News (1)
NowTheEndBegins.com
WorldTruth.tv
EmpireNews.com
Occupy Democrats (3)
ZeroHedge
Endingthefed.com

Tips for analyzing news sources:


Avoid websites that end in lo ex: Newslo (above). These sites take pieces of accurate information and then packaging that information with other false or misleading facts (sometimes for the purposes of satire or comedy).

Watch out for websites that end in .com.co as they are often fake versions of real news sources.

Watch out if known/reputable news sites are not also reporting on the story. Sometimes lack of coverage is the result of corporate media bias and other factors, but there should typically be more than one source reporting on a topic or event.

Odd domain names generally equal odd and rarely truthful news.

Lack of author attribution may, but not always, signify that the news story is suspect and requires verification.

Some news organizations are also letting bloggers post under the banner of particular news brands; however, many of these posts do not go through the same editing process (ex: BuzzFeed Community Posts, Kinja blogs, Forbes blogs).

Check the About Us tab on websites or look up the website on Snopes or Wikipedia for more information about the source.

Bad web design and use of ALL CAPS can also be a sign that the source youre looking at should be verified and/or read in conjunction with other sources.

If the story makes you REALLY ANGRY (Todd??) its probably a good idea to keep reading about the topic via other sources to make sure the story you read wasnt purposefully trying to make you angry (with potentially misleading or false information) in order to generate shares and ad revenue.

Its always best to read multiple sources of information to get a variety of viewpoints and media frames. Some sources not yet included in this list (although their practices at times may qualify them for addition), such as The Daily Kos, The Huffington Post, and Fox News, vacillate between providing important, legitimate, problematic, and/or hyperbolic news coverage, requiring readers and viewers to verify and contextualize information with other sources.







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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: phill] #283969
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Originally Posted by phill
"Like I said, I didn't vote for Trump..."

I expect we will be hearing that quite a lot as reality sets in.


Phill,

It seems the a lot of folks from OZ have a fascination with US politics.... Not looking to start a fight, but can I ask why that is? Is OZ still that dependent on the US economy? Being so close to the Asian sphere I would think China would be a bigger influence?

It seems that OZ has a lot of same concerns on Healthcare, Social, Immigration, Foreign & Domestic Policies, etc.... and isn't your Liberal Party at the helm... seems to be very similar to what got Trump elected, that is the so called party of the middle class?

Are people over there regretful to Malcolm Turnbull?

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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #283971
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The data show... Vox Facts don't make a difference

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/16/13426448/trump-psychology-fact-checking-lies

As the notorious george costanza noted... "It's not a lie... if you believe it."

IMO, A "lie" is a moral judgement.... determined by one's culture, society and theology about something in the real world.. The impact of a lie varies... from nothing to profound.

So.. we experience the real world by perception.. the article notes... that people can set aside their belief "Its a lie" perception when they get paid cash... basically something real happens to them if they perceive the real world accurately.

Another quip from the election...
"Regular people take trump seriously and not literally. Elites take trump literally and not seriously"

Take the events of 14 years ago concerning the Iraq war.

So... Trump BELIEVES he opposed the Iraq war from the beginning. This is not a fact and is documented. His supporters do take him seriously and not accurately.. and agree he opposed the Iraq war. The FACTS don't matter. AND THERE IS NO COST to them for this view or payoff.

Now consider the underlying issue about the Iraq war.... Was the Iraq war sold on or based on the basis of a Big lie existence of WMD? Again, we have the facts and the perception of the facts by the left is YES while the right perceives these facts as NO.

The FACTS have never mattered with respect to the war... Calling Bush/Cheney LIARS based on your moral/ethical/theological/cultural foundation or TRUTH TELLERS based on the same made no difference.

What DID make a difference was the actual costs of blood, treasure and wounded warriors. FACTS that impacted your or your families life. Support went from for to against in 4 to 5 years.

Given this reality Facts don't matter... Have you ever persuaded someone on the basis of FACTS?....

Personally.... my answer is NEVER.

New game question for you
... Obama's recovery act was max 2 year shovel ready projects... aka Keynesian stimulus of 1/3 building 1/3 temp tax cuts/ and 1/3 other stuff for 900 billion or so.

Trump proposes about the same... Now called Infrastructure
rebuild for about the same amount of money... but longer term.

The fact is both are Keynesian stimulus programs. WHAT were the LIES about Obama' program... What will be the LIES about Trump's program.
Sadly, the facts again won't matter.
The unfortunate fact of life is... the PERCEPTION of the lie is much stickier in your memory then the hard reality of the fact.
Human nature is human nature. Lying and believing Lies has survival value.

Irony is relabeling lying as political correctness... Political correctness obscures "the truth" Both sides get to deploy this one.

So. the American solution ... the history of slavery/native american policy gave rise to our unique non democratic (small d) constitution and electoral college. In the long run.... the facts tend to win.... but the costs are steep and as they say... in the long run... you are dead.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Mark Schneider] #283973
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I agree Mark. The science says global climate change is real. it's confirmed by 97% of climate scientists. But the oil and other energy interests who see a cratering of their bottom line have used FUD to convince the low information types that it's a scam. Look at the screeching our favorite RINO Todd projects.

Todd was also fun to watch when he was screeching about the demise of the 100 watt incandescent light bulb. A program that George W. Bush championed. Ol' Todd was literally fighting his own best interests i.e. reducing his power bill.

And it's not just the wing nuts that get taken up with the anti-science rants.

Years ago, the City of Berkeley, California decided that the styrofoam food containers used by fast food joints were a environmental disaster. They wanted them to convert to waxed paper. Huge demonstrations, letters to the editor, the whole deal. In the middle of it all, the company that made both type of containers issued a press release stating that waxed paper was actually worse as it took forever to break down in land fills and were quite a bit more expensive.

Did Berkeley back off? Nope. Their minds were made up and waxed paper use became the law.

So, will Todd, confronted with overwhelming evidence, ever change his mind about climate change? Nope. His ego won't let him.

And when Trump turns out to be an unmitigated disaster helping only himself and his ilk while leaving the people that believed in him worse off than they were with Obama, will Todd change his mind? Ego strikes again.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Todd_Sails] #283974
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It's because we used to follow the USA's moral compass Ventucky, this meant we went in with whatever your country wanted to do, now we find we have to find our own way which is fine, your president elect has stated he is going to reconsider the current agreements and that means we will as well but he should consider that we used to be closely aligned with the USA and we have a huge trade deficit with the USA so if he wants to slap tariffs on or muck around with trade Aus will make a fortune by mirroring his policies


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #283975
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Originally Posted by Ventucky Red
Come on Mikie.. this is all hearsay Tweets on Twitter by twits..

What else ya got...

Megyn Kelly: 'I felt like (I'd) been dropped into a shark tank'
"Kelly recounted how one of Trump's lawyers, Michael Cohen, retweeted a Twitter user saying "we can gut her" at a time of heightened threats.

Kelly said Fox News executive Bill Shine intervened, telling Cohen, "You gotta stop this."
Cohen "didn't much care," according to Kelly. She said Shine responded: "Lemme put it to you in terms you can understand. If Megyn Kelly gets killed, it's not going to help your candidate."

"She also noted that Corey Lewandowski, Trump's campaign manager during the primaries, "specifically threatened me if I showed up at the second debate hosted by Fox News.""

Wow Schwantz.



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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #283976
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Looking to earn extra money Todd? This is for you.

Fake News Writer: Trump Won Because of Me

Paul Horner, an individual who creates hoaxes and fake news on Facebook, said he believes he is the reason why Donald Trump won the 2016 presidential election. Honestly, people are definitely dumber, Horner said in an interview with The Washington Post. They just keep passing stuff around. Nobody fact-checks anything anymoreI mean, thats how Trump got elected. He added: I think Trump is in the White House because of me. His followers dont fact-check anythingtheyll post everything, believe anything. When asked why he wouldnt stop, Horner said he didnt think Trump could ever actually win the presidency. Recently, Google said it would scrub fake news from its ad platforms, which worries Horner because he makes $10,000 per month from advertisements that run with his work.


$10,000 a month Todd. There's plenty of suckers out there. You continue to confirm it.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Mark Schneider] #283977
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider

Keynesian stimulus programs.



Our economy has become a consumerism model (the theory that an increasing consumption of goods is economically beneficial.)

People just want to buy, buy, buy....








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Originally Posted by JeffS
It's because we used to follow the USA's moral compass Ventucky, this meant we went in with whatever your country wanted to do, now we find we have to find our own way which is fine, your president elect has stated he is going to reconsider the current agreements and that means we will as well but he should consider that we used to be closely aligned with the USA and we have a huge trade deficit with the USA so if he wants to slap tariffs on or muck around with trade Aus will make a fortune by mirroring his policies


What is good for US of A is good for OZ? I would think OZ was tied close to the UK....

Have you converted to the square top for you 5.8 per your new class rules?

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Originally Posted by Ventucky Red


People just want to buy, buy, buy....



The consumption of the public is pretty disgusting.

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Originally Posted by bacho
The consumption of the public is pretty disgusting.


Sez the guys with the $10k-$20k sailing toys.

I'm guilty here too. Just saying we probably ought not pass judgment on this one blush


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We are far removed from UK, don't do nearly as much trade as with USA which is why we have such a large deficit to you guys. Yep I have had the square top since it came in, it isn't faster for heavier crews like me because the top lays off in a breeze turning it into a pin head anyway, so my top speed is down a bit but with the 10 to 1 sheet it means smaller people can enter the class. Here's a video of a couple of weeks ago on a 50km race showing how it keeps the bows down a bit
https://youtu.be/Wf-D_3na1e0


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Originally Posted by JeffS
We are far removed from UK, don't do nearly as much trade as with USA which is why we have such a large deficit to you guys. Yep I have had the square top since it came in, it isn't faster for heavier crews like me because the top lays off in a breeze turning it into a pin head anyway, so my top speed is down a bit but with the 10 to 1 sheet it means smaller people can enter the class. Here's a video of a couple of weeks ago on a 50km race showing how it keeps the bows down a bit
https://youtu.be/Wf-D_3na1e0


Kewl Vid... thanks for sharing...

It is awesome you guys are still making and racing the 5.8's down (or is it over) there.. It is still a pretty potent boat.. Here is mine with a square top from about ten years ago...

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Hmmm.... maybe we could fix that trade deficit and revise the 5.8 class he in the US of A...


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Originally Posted by bacho
Originally Posted by Ventucky Red


People just want to buy, buy, buy....



The consumption of the public is pretty disgusting.


Consumption is not a bad thing, seems like many have made it the only thing....


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Originally Posted by Ventucky Red

Consumption is not a bad thing, seems like many have made it the only thing....


Spot on, nothing wrong with consumption, we had factories building things long ago but had small businesses in every area repairing the items, now we throw stuff away with no support industry


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Here's what the new ones look like, because of the mast rotation it looks like it doesn't go to the top but it does

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Originally Posted by rehmbo
Originally Posted by bacho
The consumption of the public is pretty disgusting.


Sez the guys with the $10k-$20k sailing toys.

I'm guilty here too. Just saying we probably ought not pass judgment on this one blush




I think the nickel and dime stuff adds up to way more than any single large item.

I'm more frustrated with some of my peers that are convinced they have to "out do" each other. Last summer I heard a report that something like only 47% can come up with $500 cash for a surprise bill. Our population spends every available dime consuming everything possible with no regard for tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by JeffS
Here's what the new ones look like, because of the mast rotation it looks like it doesn't go to the top but it does


Sweet... I got to make a trip down there sans the family... call it a sailing pilgrimage..

For ****s and giggles, what are the new ones selling for, the whole boat that is...

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Originally Posted by bacho

I think the nickel and dime stuff adds up to way more than any single large item.


Flew with a guy from Chicago to LA once, he ran a bunch of Pay Day Loan stores... Told me a majority of the people they do business with are not destitute, they are just so far in debt they are forced into pay check to pay check lifestyle... it comes in and goes right back out...






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