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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285392
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<**** and lies. And its not entirely clear how to respond.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285393
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When even Darth Vader thinks your policies are un-American, you really need to start rethinking.

Dick Cheney, a decisive conservative himself, said Monday on The Hugh Hewitt Show that the (Muslim) ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."

"I think this whole notion that somehow we can just say no more Muslims, just ban a whole religion, goes against everything we stand for and believe in. I mean, religious freedom has been a very important part of our history and where we came from,"


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285394
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Trump's Obama Derangement Syndrome

The Obama inauguration was a historic event; grand and uplifting, filled with pomp, talent, excitement, and joy. The Trump version was better attended than your usual white supremacist function, filled with pompousness, thin on talent, exciting if you are fond of harangues, and joyless as watching the Statue of Liberty being vandalized.

During the after-inaugural parade the stands were jammed to overflowing with people who wanted to see President Obama. The Trump stands were largely empty but for a few homeless people taking advantage of this pop-up bivouac spot. That will be the last help they get from him. Worse yet, Trump got out of his car to do a sleazy and self-serving infomercial as his hotel was passed by, and no one watched.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285396
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There's a big difference between lying and what Trump says. Read the book.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285397
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From the Washington Post

By Editorial Board January 28 at 4:33 PM
THE EXECUTIVE ORDER that President Trump signed on Friday calling a temporary halt to travel to the United States from seven predominantly Muslim nations and indefinitely blocking refugees from the worlds largest humanitarian crisis, in Syriais an affront to values upon which the nation was founded and that have made it a beacon of hope around the world. George Washington declared in 1783 that the bosom of America is open not only to the opulent and respectable stranger but also the oppressed and persecuted. Now Mr. Trump has slammed the door on the oppressed and persecuted in a fit of irrational xenophobia.

He ordered foreign nationals from Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Yemen and Iraq be barred immediately from entry into the United States for 90 days while more rigorous visa screening is put into place. This touched off panic and chaos at airports on Saturday as people with already-issued visas were turned away from boarding flights and others detained on arrival. Among those caught in the mess and held at John F. Kennedy Airport in New York was an Iraqi who had worked for the United States in Iraq for a decade. Green card holders, already permanent residents in the United States who happened to be overseas, were told they could no longer re-enter. Untold thousands of people who have applied for visas including translators and interpreters who have worked with U.S. forces in Iraq were left wondering if they would ever make it to American shores.

Syrias civil war has forced about 4.8 million people to flee to neighboring countries, and 1 million are seeking asylum in Europe. Mr. Trump callously and without evidence declared that Syrian refugees are detrimental to the interests of the United States, although in fact the relatively small number who have come to the United States have proven overwhelmingly positive. Mr. Trumps four-month ban on refugees from these predominantly Muslim nations was accompanied by an instruction to prioritize refugee claims made by religious minorities facing persecution, chiefly Christians whose communities have suffered greatly over many decades. We think theres a legitimate place in refugee policy for favoring persecuted minorities, but favoring one faith while blocking people from another is demeaning to all and runs counter to the basic tenet that the United States does not discriminate by religion.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285398
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Even Kim Kardashian is looking smarter than Trump. Go figure.

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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285399
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Action <---> Reaction

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) received more than $10 million since Saturday and has hundreds of thousands of new members in the day since it took action against President Trump's executive order

Ive never seen anything like this, Romero said. People are fired up and want to be engaged. What weve seen is an unprecedented public reaction to the challenges of the Trump administration.
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I hope Trump enjoys losing, ACLU national director Faiz Shakir toldYahoo News Saturday. Hes going to lose so much were going to get sick and tired of his losing.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Todd_Sails] #285402
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That is not terrifying at all.

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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Todd_Sails] #285404
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Why is this temporary blocking of visas an issue now when it hasn't been in previous administrations?


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the one blocking visas from the 7 nations, or another executive order?


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Tony_F18] #285406
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
That is not terrifying at all.

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With Bush it was President Cheney. Now it's President Bannon.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285407
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Building a Wall of Ignorance

So lets sum it up: The White House press secretary created a diplomatic crisis while trying to protect the president from ridicule over his foolish boasting. In the process he demonstrated that nobody in authority understands basic economics. Then he tried to walk the whole thing back.

All of this should be placed in the larger context of Americas quickly collapsing credibility.

Our government hasnt always done the right thing. But it has kept its promises, to nations and individuals alike.


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285408
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Alternate Facts

Trump says his order didn't cause weekend airport chaos.

Facts

Protesters block LAX traffic, face off with police as they rally against Trump's travel ban

Democrats will attempt to rescind Trumps travel ban

How Trumps Rush to Enact an Immigration Ban Unleashed Global Chaos

OBAMA EMERGES! AMERICAN VALUES AT STAKE

It Took Donald Trump 8 Days To Bring The U.S. To The Brink Of A Constitutional Crisis

Obedience to specific court orders is what keeps us from being a banana republic or fascist dictatorship. Thats a really big deal.


Where are Schwantz and Todd to mansplain all of this to us?


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: hobie1616] #285409
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Our good friend Todd called Michelle Obama a thug (we all know what that really means in Todd-speak) for daring to touch Queen Elizabeth.

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Now Trump wants to visit the UK. Could a Trump visit to Britain embarrass the queen? More than a million Britons say yes

Thug indeed!


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Re: The media IS the Democraptic party! [Re: Todd_Sails] #285411
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Well that escalated quickly!

Trump appointee tells Trump NO!... Just won't do it!.. Trump Fires Her. Swears in appointee number two. Then fires the guy who he thinks screwed up his big victory of the muslim weekend... the customs and immigration guy..

This smells like the Nixon Sat Night Massacre It took Nixon to the third level to get some one to fire Archibald Cox, the Nixon special prosecutor who wanted Nixon's tapes.

So... yes... the president can fire his political appointees.. and the context matters.

But... wow... what an echo from history.

(In this issue, Trump could have just picked a Justice Dept Trump flunky /true believer/ to defend his actions in court as a special prosecutor and tell her to recuse her self... and wait till his guy gets approved... but... well you know... his small hands meant ... not taking that crap from some no name babe)

The screws of history... are evil. That Nixon lackey was none other then Robert Bork.... So... as Trump gets ready to name a new Justice (after the BS of the last year for Garland) ...It was going to take a herculean performance to pretend that the next justice action was not pure politics. It will be nuclear.

Now, Trump has fallen into the trap of having the justice department viewed as his political enforcer. Moreover, today Spicer told the State Dept people signing onto a statement opposing the new travel ban.... don't like it.... leave! (not even sharp enough to remind the staff to do their job and he was sure.... they would do their job... NOPE...its trumps way... or the highway)

The public LOVES a strong man... so Trump may fire up his base... He just said... YOUR FIRED.... In a world where you are the hammer.... EVERYTHING looks like a nail and its what he knows... So... couple that with those hippies with pink pussy hats in the streets... and History makes another echo. Nixon destroyed McGovern and those hippie loosers as the dems were in total disarray (just like now)
Now THAT is a possible future echo of the past....

Other echoes.... The echo of J Edgar Hoover is problematic... I could not have believed that the Justice Department's FBI guy, Comey, ignoring all precedent and advice from his boss and playing politics with the Clinton investigation using the FBI as a weapon...AND then punting on the russian intervention till the election was over... Trump says... good boy... you can stay for your ten year contract.

I am having an even worse horrible flashback then Hoover and watching the TV show... the propoganda called "Tales of the FBI" tho!.... I remember being driven to grade school and listening to the morning news coming from Viet Nam. The US killed 30 ... 50... 100s of viet cong and suffered just a few casualties day after day ... I thought of it like a ball game... Cool.... we are winning 100 to 5... Then I remember the anti war marches... and I followed my parents point of view that ONLY Nixon could protect us from those Hippie commies. Did you see what they did to the returning soldiers who were THIS CLOSE TO WINNING THE WAR... Didn't Nixon's secret plan to win the WAR almost work... (40 years later we find out ONLY after telling the South Vietnamese... NOT to cut a deal with Johnson and end the damn thing... so that he could beat Humprhey) Then I remember my Governor/Sitting Vice President.... resigning... Why ... I was told... Oh... the commies trumped up some charges.. (he strong armed kickbacks in my county) Those appeasers forced us to surrender in Viet Nam... WTF... the USA NEVER looses a war... The hippie left did this.... So.... i remember being very sad when they got Nixon. What?... they nailed him for dirty tricks campaign... REALLY....

Thank god... they taught history in college..and i learned to read the newspaper and the history of the constitution.

Trump is out there doing exactly what trump promised... Can't imagine it working... How much of my flashback reprises.... god, I hope none of it... but not looking good right now.
So, I guess I have the misfortune of living through the 70s again... this time a bit more aware! I was just a kid getting fed propoganda, the usual american fairy tale that white washed our past. ...Now as an adult... i get fed alternate facts... Its just different!

Till I read of the Canadian tragedy of a white supremacist opening fire on the poor people in the mosque killing 5... Anti muslim action..... who would have predicted?

rant over! (i feel better now)

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Alternative Facts

"The acting Attorney General, Sally Yates, has betrayed the Department of Justice by refusing to enforce a legal order designed to protect the citizens of the United States," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said in a statement.

Facts

The firing of Yates represents a spectacular example of Trump lashing out at a person who has dared to assert a moral vision that conflicts with his squalid and fearful worldview.

President Trump has now put his Cabinet on notice: if you adhere to your oath of office to defend the Constitution, you risk your job," said Sen. Patrick Leahy, a senior member of the Judiciary Committee.


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