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tramp lacing button required #43334
01/24/05 09:39 AM
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Does anyone know who makes or supplies the "buttons" that attach to the rear beam that you normally lace your trampoline to. Preferably a UK or European supplier. Or even what they are called.

Thanks

Gareth

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Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43335
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Marstrom has them for the Tornado and A. Hobie has them for the H20.

Try and find the kind that have a monel tube inside (I don't know where mine came from) The plastic has long since disappeared but the monel tube and large head monel rivet work fine without it and will probably last as long as the beam

Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: carlbohannon] #43336
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I am still struggling to find these parts, are they specially made for lacing a trampoline or they more commonly used for something else, i.e. attaching boat covers etc.

Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43337
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Ref: http://www.funcat-sailing.de/Tornado/sitebeamsbeschlaege.htm

Look for the aft view of a Tornado rear-beam, there you can see the rivets you need.

You can order them from these guys, in Germany, or:

http://www.catsailing.net/shop/rearbeam.htm also in Germany.

Otherwise, you can go directly to http://www.marstrom.com, and order them there from his webshop.

I dont know which of these will respond quickest, but I have mixed experiences buying small items directly from Marstrøm.


If you are desperate, forget about the rivets and make your own SS hooks, thread the other end of the hook and bolt them with some nylon washers and a lock-nut on the front side of the aft-beam. Requires some fiddling with battens inside, to tighten the lock-nut, but lets you raise the trampoline a bit since it dont have to go under the beam anymore.


If you find similar bolts/rivets, they are probably not in monel, but with a alu house and steel nail. The nail will quickly rust and the fitting will break.

My best tip, order some from the guys in Germany.. I think Wolfgang Heineman works for Catsailing, and he is a nice guy to deal with.

Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43338
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Gareth,
I can probably help you out with these.
Send me a private email and I'll send you some pictures to make it is exactly what you want.
phillbrander@bigpond.com


I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: carlbohannon] #43339
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A solution I used was to buy 3/16" I.D. vinyl tubing cut into 1/2" long lengths to use as a spacer between the rear beam and a 3/16" washer secured by a #10 x 1" stainless steel self tapping pan head screw. Not quite as elegant but it has been in use now for 7 or 8 years without any failures.


Bob Fraser
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Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: phill] #43340
01/27/05 04:34 AM
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Thanks Rolf, Phil.

I have since found another source and much cheaper i.e. 0.15 Euros instead of 2.15 euros for plastic or the same price 2.15 euros for stainless steel.

see www.pointnorth.co.uk item no LB2 for black plastic or LB3 for stainless steel.

I will get some samples, make sure they are suitable and report back.

Thanks

Gareth
www.fourhulls.com

Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43341
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Bob: I had a stainless self-tapping screw trough an aluminium section on my rudderstocks. It failed last summer, with badly corroded alu where it went trough the stock (factory mounted).
All literature also advise against letting steel and alu be in contact without insulation between, even if you have good experience with it.

Gareth, the heads looks nice, but how do you plan to attach them to your beam? The sailcloth section of their site was not cheap..
Looking forward to hear about your experiences.


Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43342
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could you not just purchase some plastic tubing and cut it to small even sections. Then place a big head rivit in the middle of it and voila!


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Here you go [Re: Jake] #43343
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This is what Mystere uses. Just look at any RWO catalogue.
Try RWO R2905 or something else on this page.

RWO tramp hooks

Tramp lacing [Re: David Parker] #43344
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On older Tboats, the rear beam lacing was attached by standard stainless eyestraps rivetted to the beam.



Mike Dobbs
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Re: tramp lacing button required [Re: grob] #43345
01/29/05 08:10 PM
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Grob

Thanks for finding these things and thanks for posting the link.

From the picture they look like what I purchased from Redhead Sails. They were nylon, they worked just fine

I requested some information on the dimensions. If it's even close to what I need I am going to buy 100-200. My Tornado uses 16 and my F14 uses 28.

Every time I find a deal like this I buy enough to last a couple of years and I have never regretted it.


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