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help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit #45864
03/14/05 03:18 PM
03/14/05 03:18 PM
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Cadiz, Spain
nearher Offline OP
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Hi everybody,
I have bought a tiller tie bar upgrade kit for my nacra 5.0 because the old system got stuck very often.
Unfortunately the new one doesn't work much better: when you try to tack the adjustable end cap meets the side of the kit and it doesn't let you pull or push all the way.

Has anyone used one of these kits? How do you mount it? Should I cut the end cap?

Thank you

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Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45865
03/14/05 11:49 PM
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Charleston, SC
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Got any pictures, I reallly don't see what you are referring to.
Trey


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Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: NCSUtrey] #45866
03/15/05 08:25 AM
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Cadiz, Spain
nearher Offline OP
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Thank you ncsutrey,
I really appreciate your answer but if you don't have one of those kits It'll be diffcult for you to know. You can see the actual pieces in http://www.murrays.com/archive/32-33.pdf, at the end of the second page. The pieces go in each end of the tiller tie bar.

Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45867
03/15/05 08:37 AM
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well he's got a N20, so he's got the nacra tiller system. I'm with him though, I think a picture would definitely help us help you

Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: MauganN20] #45868
03/15/05 10:28 AM
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Jake Offline
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The N20 doesn't have such a system but my 6.0NA and my 5.2 did. I don't clearly understand your problem. The "Nacra Rudder Alignment and Crossbar" kit won't fix any interference issues but are to allow you to adjust the alignment of your rudders. It should function exactly the same way that the solid bar with two holes worked....and the adjuster should only be installed on one end - it's not necessary to install two of them.

If you could post some pictures of the actual interference problem, we could probably help you more.


Jake Kohl
Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: Jake] #45869
03/15/05 11:36 AM
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Yep, my 6.0na had the same style connector. While I also had the inline adjuster on the crossbar, I had no problems with binding. Did you just install them? Be sure that your holes are straight and are in the exact center of the pipe...if the holes are offset any then you may have a problem.
Trey
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Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45870
03/16/05 03:32 PM
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I put the same kit on my 5.O five or six years ago. It worked great. Inspect the new connectors to make sure that they are identical on both sides (I don't remember for sure if they are, and I no longer own the boat). Make sure that the offset of the inner (crossbar) side is "forward"; ie, the pins for the crossbar should be vertical. The connectors should be squared, not smashed shut, and make sure neither the crossbar nor the tillers are smashed too badly either. Good luck


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Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45871
03/16/05 04:00 PM
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If naught else works, send the kit back and order the Prindle tiller end connectors which are easy and work right every time.

sea ya
tami

Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45872
03/17/05 11:01 AM
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Cadiz, Spain
nearher Offline OP
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Thanks everybody,

Silly me! I think I have spot the problem: the distance between the hole (for the pin of the kit) in the bar and the end of the bar is too long for the pieces of the upgrade kit. I will cut the spare part.
As for seeing what the problem ...was(I hope)
...Well, I'll try to show you with a pair of pictures

Thank you again
never met such helpful people as here in catsailor

Re: help needed: nacra tiller tie bar upgrade kit [Re: nearher] #45873
03/17/05 11:18 AM
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Aww shucks. I was thinking you were talking about the adjustable kit - I didn't realize you had simply replaced the end fittings. Instead of cutting anything, you may be able to reshape then ends of the cross bar so they don't interfere with the stainless fittings (use a sander) - but you're right, it just that the holes in the new fittings are too close to the rudder arm not allowing enough room for the material between the end of the cross bar and the hole in it. This probably means that the rudder alignment will be slightly off as well.


Jake Kohl

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