Humm, didn't I place full reports on this forum on 5 race days I participated in over the past 2 months ? You only need to scroll down a bit to see how I put "a wonderful theory" into practice. It is not a big secret that I'm just a decent sailor, nothing special. Come to think of it, it is far more important whether I'm a good class builder. Would one say that I succeeded at that ? Well, when even the trolls are regular checking this forum for new stuff then ...


Wouter

Sam, what have your H17 racing results been lately?

Samevans wont reply. He is only good at attacking Wouter. He is a pansy b!tch boy. As usual with Internet thugs.

All he is good for is personal attacks. Watch he wont answer my question or yours Tim. Sounds like a huge hypocrite to me. I even sent him a private message and reminded him over and over about it, yet he decides to ignore it.

He is nothing but a parasite to the F16 community, leeching our ideas and damaging the host.

He is just jealous he doesnt sail an F16.

Okay guys, lets not become trolls ourselfs !

We can't undo a personal attack by personally attacking the source itself and try to come up with even more ugly names.

Just ignore him or only answer back with arguments.

We must all remember that succes breads contempt. So I see Sam as one of the more powerful signs that we are getting somewhere. God knows, no monster modern or classical breaths contempt like he does. So we must be doing something right.

Besides the next full moon is now several weeks away again.

Wouter

(P.S. it is very good to see that I'm not the only one who thinks Sams posts lack taste)

On the motoring forum I frequent we use a later version of the UBB software, this has a nice feature :

"The ignore user function"

This means that you do not see their posts !

I think we need it (please)

or get our own formula 16 forum.

You guys are too easy.
Ask KW little embarrassing question and his helpers come out screaming and cursing.

Robi,
You only sent me one.
I don't hide behind P.M.'s
I am man enough to say what I think in public.

I have have been outing KW's lies and anti-American B.S. for more years than you have known about this website.
When he invented the f16 class, he realized that he neede Americans to get it going.
An example, on 9/15/01 KW posted "I'm known to have my disagreements but this attack is way out of proportion".
So according to him, we deserved to be attacked but that was too much.

I am glad to see that you acknowledge "Wouter as being a lier".

Do you even know what a "hypocite" is?
If you had shown up at the Tommy Whiteside Regatta, I could have explained it to you.
Don't worry, I an SURE we we meet at some regatta this summer.
We will find out who is the "pansy bitch boy".

Jalani,
You should read your class rules.
I have brought this up before, and you people must have igmored it.

2.2 The F16HP class authority
2.2.1 The Formula 16 class authority will be formed by the founder(chairman) of the class and appointed local representatives and related officials.

There is only one person who is THE FOUNDER, HRW KW.
HE has no term limit.
HE appoints all other officers.
HE has no limit on his power.
HE is the only person can can proposed and approve any rule change.
You may not need a leader, but you have got a dictator.

KW,
As you well know, I am not attacking the f16 class, I am attacking you.
I am commenting on is YOUR statements and behavior.
You try to draw the others into to protect instead of responding in a polite and civilized manner.
Don't hide behind the class, stand up for yourself for a change.

You have been bragging about the Round Texel for over five years.
You bragged about it being the biggest cat race in the world.
You bragged about it being in your own country.
You bragged about it being so close to you.
It is only a 3-4 hour race, one little day.
You could race single or double-handed.
Last year, you used cost as an excuse.
This year, you have too much work (and yet you spend alot time on the website).
What will it take to get you to put your boat where your mouth is?


At least Phil used is brain and read what I said and came to his own conclusion.

Tim,

Lets make a relaxed day of it. I checked everything and I may even have a wetsuit for you if push comes to shoove. Boat is ready if you care for a spi and the sailing club bar is open after 12:00 am if you care for a beer. I will bring a magic marker so you can sign you name on our visitors table. There should be a few Aussie signatures on there as well ; from last years DCC F16 event. Who says that cat sailors don;t travel the world for sailing ?

I'm definately NOT going to Texel this year. This is final now. Best way to hook up is for you to find your way to Den Haag railway station (either one, it doesn't matter much which) and catch a train to either Zandvoort or Heemstede-Aerdenhout railwaystations. The latter two are small local railway stations. I can pick you up there from either or you can walk down to the club yourself (when arriving at Zandvoort station). Train trip will be about 38 minutes or 58 min depending on were you get off the train (Heemstede or Zandvoort). More details later in this post.

You have my phone numbers. Give me ring if you drop by. It is pretty sure that I will go sailing; either solo or with you.

For weather forcast go to www.windguru.cz and select "netherlands - zandvoort" in the windguru location input box (and press go.

There is significant cloud cover but also 8 to 12 knots of wind and a moderate seastate of 1.1 mtr tall waves. The wind is from the north west (sea breeze) so should be stable and constant in force. This will be pretty good sailing weather although some more sun should be nice. It will be pretty much upwind along the coast the the north and then downwind under spin, again along the coast, to the south.

If you can't reach me on my fixed line, then try my mobile phone. I could be out on the beach already. If for some reason miss each other then my boat is at the Zandvoort watersport vereniging (Zandvoort watersport club) we're on the South boulevard of zandvoort almost on the extreme southern edge of the town of zandvoort. The club contains many tens of boats so you'll recognise the forrest of masts from a distance. If you have to look for than find the beach in Zandvoort and walk south along the beach.

Travel details :

I can't really see what you best option for transport from the hotel to the Den Haag railway station is. I think you can best ask at the Hotel. There is a direct connection for Den Haag CS station (=Den Haag Central Station) to both Heemstede AND Zandvoort. It is a halve our service meaning that each hour at xx:10 and xx:40 a train leaves with end destination Zandvoort (passing through and also stopping at Heemstede). There are even more trains in this direction but you will have to switch trains at stations to get to zandvoort. I figure it is easiest to take the direction connections and wait it out till the final station (=Zandvoort itself). The cat club is about a 10 to 15 min walk from this station. Head due west till you hit the beach. Than at the water front turn left (south) and walk on till you pass the sail club.

Alternatively you can get out at Heemstede and arrange for me to pick you up. In general both routes will take about as long.

Tim, you can just buy a one-way ticket as I'll be driving you back to the Hotel at the end of the day; It is on my route to the movie art house and my friends.

Pretty much I will go about my business as I would do under normal circumstances, till I receive your call that is. Mostly hanging about and fiddling with my boat.


For more info on the train route, fare and etc go press this link : Train info to zandvoort

It should show you the details to the train trip to zandvoort immediately.

Well, that is it I think.

Have a good flight !

Wouter

GEEZ sam seems to have a lot of time on his hands, AND ALL OF IT'S SPENT WATCHING AND COUNTING AND TWISTING whatever Wouter says! It seems that, in sams eyes Wouter is wrong when he posts and he's even more wrong when he doesn't post. You have a very sad, small minded disposition little sammy, pehaps you should try politics? you would probably fit in like "a hand in a glove" there!

Thanks Wouter, that sounds like a good plan. I'll call you on your mobile phone after I talk to the hotel front desk and find out how long it should take me to get there.

I will bring my wetsuit bottoms and booties, etc but not a life jacket or trap harness since you have an extra one. See you then.

Tim

WOW arent you a tough guy. Sounds like a threat are you actually threatening me?

THAT I can tell you right now. From walking out the lobby to arriving at the club should be about 90 minutes. When I drop you off in the evening it will be about 45 min. In a straight line the distance is only about 45 km = (30 miles). You'll loose relative;y the most time with getting from the hotel to the railway station in Den Haag.

I thought about picking you up as well but we won't win more than 10 minutes with that.
Yep I have the other stuff.

See ya

Wouter

Well, don't think much of it Robi.

Sam wrote back in 2002 (yep it has been going on for so long already) that they would take me back into the Georgia woods and "show me a good time" if I showed up at Spring Fever regatta 2002.

I met Sam there and all he said was "Hi" and all he did was look at me and walk away. Now I'm not that big so something must have been THAT small, that day.

Don't let him spoil your good mood and just ignore him.

Lets get sailing

Wouter

The only way to deal with people like Sam :

Eyy, that must be a good old _norwegian_ troll

OK, Wouter, I'm in Cinncinnatti, gettting ready to leave, everything looks good so far, Plane isn't broke (yet) and weather there looks good. See ya in about 12 hours.

KW,
what happened to your "not become trolls ourselves" policy?
As usual, you said one thing and did another.

So now you have resorted to lies?

Where is the post threatening you?
Give a date or link?

Yes we met.
I was going to the showers and you and Kirt Simmons, who I knew years before I heard of you, were hanging out around the men's room.
I shook his hand and put my hand out to this guy standing next to him, BEFORE he told me your name.
It is just another example of your arrogance to think that anyone would bother to bruise their knuckles on you.
Only a childish low-life would think about starting a fight at a regatta.
I am not surprised that you were in that state of mind.


Robi,
Have you looked up the word hypocite yet?
If so, tell us what I have been hypocritical about.

I want to see if you are man enough to insult someone in person.
My response will depend upon the mood I am in.


Darryl,
It doesn't take much time.
There is no "twisting".
He just can't get into his head that everything he posts can be quickly looked up when he later makes a contradictory statement.
He has done that since his very first posts and I expect him to continue to prove himself a liar.
Notice that he almost never addresses my accusations directly, but chooses to bring up irrelevent subjects?

When did I tell KW that he needs to post more?
You seem to fallen into that same mental void as KW where you complain about things I never said or did, just so you have something to complain about.


Scooby,
It is impossible for most of you to ignore my posts because you see the truth in what I say.
You feel an urgent need to do "damage control" before other, unbiased, readers see the issues I raise and realize the problems in the f16.


STICKS AND STONES MAY BREAK MY BONES BUT WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME
Feel free to not respond.

That's got to be the most self centered comment I have read all day.

Agreed

Samevans,

All I see in your posts are a little boy throwing insults

Weather of Texel was also on our shore line and we made the smart decision. Had a great day, hung around the club drank some beer and hooked up with Tim's co-pilot and friend for a dinner in Den Haag. Was a very pleasant evening, had lots of fun. Tims eyes were glassing over later one, after putting in a very long day. I'll bet he is sleeping tight now while I'll just upload this picture.

(P.S. as you can see it was cold and cloudy as well)




And here Tim, the pic you requested. You with a kite surfer in the background (it was a good day for them)




Wouter