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Smyth Sails #65431
01/25/06 02:35 PM
01/25/06 02:35 PM
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Orange Park, FL
RobLyman Offline OP
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Anyone know if Rany Smyth is still doing sails? If so, how/where do I get in contact with him?

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Re: Smyth Sails [Re: RobLyman] #65432
01/25/06 03:09 PM
01/25/06 03:09 PM
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Michigan
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I would go local, if I were you. He can be hard to get a hold of. Call Schurr sails in Pensacola and they would know (they cut and assemble the designs that Randy makes).
I had good results with Calvert with my new main but you get hit with shipping if you order from a distance.

Last edited by PTP; 01/25/06 03:10 PM.
Re: Smyth Sails [Re: PTP] #65433
01/25/06 03:23 PM
01/25/06 03:23 PM
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Orange Park, FL
RobLyman Offline OP
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I may well try Schurr. There is NO WAY I would go with the one local sailmaker here in Jacksonville. While they do an OK job with cruiser sails, repairs and canvas work, I don't think they would have a clue (or clew as the case may be) on how to design a masthead spinnaker for my RC-27.

Re: Smyth Sails [Re: RobLyman] #65434
01/25/06 03:44 PM
01/25/06 03:44 PM
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I know Calvert does a lot of cat/trimaran work. Check out their website. calvertsails.com

Re: Smyth Sails [Re: PTP] #65435
01/25/06 03:55 PM
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Calvert builds a lot of big multi-hull sails - I had a very good experience with them on my 'ol 5.2


Jake Kohl
Re: Smyth Sails [Re: RobLyman] #65436
01/25/06 04:11 PM
01/25/06 04:11 PM
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Long Beach, California
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I can very highly recommend Schurr Sails - talk to Hunter. He made a very sweet spinny for the 4.3. It was the best spin in the fleet, my opinion - shape, attachment points and all the nice finishing touches. He took his time in explaining to me the latest materials and colors, and the pros and cons of each. Great customer service.

Also, they just signed on as a sponsor for the Alter Cup.

Make sure you let us know who you pick and how the sails turn out.


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Smyth Sails [Re: John Williams] #65437
01/25/06 04:30 PM
01/25/06 04:30 PM
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Michigan
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John...
Having since met Hunter and had him fix something minor on my jib I would recommend him as well. That is why I recommended local (love the new main, but would have saved shipping and likely got good quality if I had gone with Schurr)

Re: Smyth Sails [Re: RobLyman] #65438
01/29/06 07:56 AM
01/29/06 07:56 AM
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Rob,
Randy is still doing all types and sizes of sails. He did a great main and jib for me last summer for the 22. Same program as always, he designs and Schurr Sails in Pensacola builds them. His number hasnt changed , its 850 243 WIND (9463). If you cant reach him at that number let me know. I do know he is staying quite busy. Good luck and we will see you at the Miami-Key Largo and/ or Mug Race.

Re: Smyth Sails [Re: RobLyman] #65439
01/29/06 10:26 AM
01/29/06 10:26 AM
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Dallas, Texas
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Hello Rob-

I would contact GM Sails. Gordon Myers made the sails for Afterburner and Bill Gibbs is pretty happy with both the sails and price and servise. He also made the roller furling spin for my 22. Obviously the link doesn't work so try the ARC22 owners forum.

thom

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Last edited by thom; 01/29/06 10:29 AM.
Re: Smyth Sails [Re: thom] #65440
01/29/06 12:38 PM
01/29/06 12:38 PM
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Annapolis, MD
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This is an interesting thread. Who is designing and making cat sails and what boats are they being recognzied for?


Charlie Olgetree/ Ulman Zuccoli program. Tornado
Dave Calvert Calvert/Halsley?
Tony Arends, Racer X, A cat sails
Randy Smyth, Smyth Sails
Peter Vink Performance Sails, F18's
Skip Elliot Nacra Performance Stock Sails
Andy Landenberger Tornado and A cat sails
Greg Goodall A cat sails
XXX, Hyde Sails... Dart?
XXX Gran Segal... Tornado Spinakers

I am sure there are others... Anyone?


crac.sailregattas.com
Re: Smyth Sails [Re: Mark Schneider] #65441
01/29/06 01:12 PM
01/29/06 01:12 PM
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West coast of Norway
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Glaser sails, Tornado, F-18 and A cats, dont forget Jay.
Performance Sails in the Netherlands, Tornado and F-18s.
Olympic Sails in Australia, Tornados++

BTW: It's Gran Segel, not "segal". They also build a lot of other sails, eg. Tornado main/jibs, and a plethoria of other mono and multihulls.

Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #65442
01/29/06 07:43 PM
01/29/06 07:43 PM
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Annapolis, MD
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Charlie Olgetree/ Ulman Zuccoli Tornado Houston TX
Dave Calvert Calvert/Halsley? F boats Florida Keys
Tony Arends, Racer X Sails, A cat Annapolis, MD
Randy Smyth, Smyth Sails all cats. Panhandle Fl
Peter Vink Performance Sails, F18's Tornado's Holland
Skip Elliot Nacra Performance Stock Sails California
Andy Landenberger Landenberger Sails, Tornado and A cat
Greg Goodall, Goodall Sails, A cat, Taipan Australia
XXX, Hyde Sails... Dart England
XXX Gran Segel Sails... Tornado Spins and others Denmark
XXX Olympic Sails Tornado Australia
Jay Glaser, Glaser sails, Tornado, F-18,A cats, California
Gordon Meyers GM Sails Afterburner California ??
Hunter X, Shurr Sails, Panhandle Florida

???


crac.sailregattas.com
Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: Mark Schneider] #65443
01/29/06 09:43 PM
01/29/06 09:43 PM
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Long Beach, California
John Williams Offline
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Hunter Riddle - Schurr


John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: Mark Schneider] #65444
01/29/06 10:23 PM
01/29/06 10:23 PM
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Palm Harbor, FL, USA
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Ashby Sails - A-Cats, Taipans, Capricorns
Redhead Sails - Various catamarans, poplular among Taipans & Tornados
Goodall Sails - Standard on Flyers, Taipans & Capricorns

All are located in Australia and seem to be the choice of Taipan sailors worldwide.

I have a set of Goodalls and a set from Calvert, both are very nice.


Lance
Taipan 5.7 USA 182
Palm Harbor, FL
Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: Mark Schneider] #65445
01/30/06 01:16 AM
01/30/06 01:16 AM
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Folks,

Given the open supplier principles of the F18 class I'd be surprised if there is only one sailmaker making F18 sails in the USA.
Anyone else, including Glaser Sails, making F18 sails in the US.
Given the F18 Nacra and Tiger are using different masts does Glaser make sails for both.

Just curious.
Regards,
Phill


I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: phill] #65446
01/30/06 07:50 AM
01/30/06 07:50 AM
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Brighton, UK
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Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: Mark Schneider] #65447
01/30/06 10:33 AM
01/30/06 10:33 AM
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Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ...
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For our store we just took on a new kid on the block. Whirlwind Sails in San Diego is making great sails for the Hobie Wave and makes sails for any Hobie design as well. Battens from your old sail fit perfectly into the new designs.
Not HCA legal, but they are legal for IWCA (Wave Class).

And the price is right.
Rick


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Catsailor Magazine & OnLineMarineStore.com
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Re: Active Cat Sailmakers [Re: RickWhite] #65448
01/30/06 02:43 PM
01/30/06 02:43 PM
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The SailMax.biz F18 (Dave Lennard and Mike Krantz) used Ullman sails (main,jib, and spin) on their Nacra F18 last year. They traveled a lot miles, and sailed at a number of different venues. I can't say they were faster than stock, but they sure weren't slower - go to www.naf18.com and check out the 2005 rankings...

As far as I know, pretty much the rest of the F18 crowd in North America is stock Hobie and Nacra sails. We saw a prototype set of North's about two years ago, but they never seemed to take off.

-Mike


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