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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | I think the new prices of the Inter 20 just put that boat out of reach for many of us, just like the new A cats. $20,000 is a lot of dough to sneak past the wife! Maybe after the kids leave... You can get an A cat for much less than $20k Used min weight - couple years old in great shape $10k - $15k New XJ $16k -$17k (ok not much less, but less) An over min weight A was for sale in Newport last year for $3k. That had a Hall mast that was worth $2k at least. You could have lightened this boat up for the cost of new daggerboards, easy and cheap. Look around, lots of A cats trading hands for lots less than $20k. Bill | | | Re: You both loose !
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#67417 02/27/06 10:22 AM 02/27/06 10:22 AM |
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway Rolf_Nilsen
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Posts: 4,451 West coast of Norway | Eyh, Maughan, you just implied that catsailing is the operating system equivalent to MS Windows becouse viruses pop up everywhere and can't be removed without installing (at least the nasty ones). If compared to operating systems, catsailing at least must be linux or perhaps MacOS. Cool, adaptable, fast and affordable (having just ordered 60 MS Office licences), quite secure and easy to run once you know how to. In that setting, the F-16 class clearly is the "Thunderbird" browser. Dont know what the Tornado class would be if it was an application in the same setting tough. Word Perfect perhaps? "Camelot is such a silly place, lets not go there." Clikety-clop clikety-clop clikety-clop etc.. | | | Re: You both loose !
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#67420 02/27/06 12:30 PM 02/27/06 12:30 PM |
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"We are the Borg .. ehhh .. F16 class."
"F16 will copy your better features into it own design, enhancing its supremacy."
"Resistance is futile; prepare to be assimilated"
Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#67422 02/27/06 01:12 PM 02/27/06 01:12 PM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Any F16's in northeast US?
See : http://www.frappr.com/formula16classgroup... and growing btw : the 4 Taipan+spi boats in maryland Virginnia are not on the map as of yet. Wouter
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Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#67424 02/27/06 01:37 PM 02/27/06 01:37 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Constantine was second in one of the WRCRA Tuesday night series this year.
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#67425 02/27/06 01:39 PM 02/27/06 01:39 PM |
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Posts: 1,382 Essex, UK | I too was quite pleasantly surprised to discover that Wouter has something approaching a sense of humour! - but then, with the amount of abuse he's taken over the last few years, he'd have to have, wouldn't he?
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#67428 02/27/06 02:47 PM 02/27/06 02:47 PM |
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Posts: 3,348 | I was hoping, that over time, we'd kinda just meld together.
btw- anybody have any tips on down wind sailing, my performance really sucks!
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#67429 02/27/06 03:18 PM 02/27/06 03:18 PM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Are any A-cats thinking of making the switch? Or getting into the F-16 in addition to the A class?
We are have seen several sailors switch. In both directions actually and in equal numbers too. Often because they wanted to take their kids along or do spinnaker sailing (going for F16), or because they wanted to get into A-cat racing. Personally I expect to both win sailors from the A-cat class as loose sailors to the A-cat class. It is a natural thing for people to transition from one class to another when their personal circumstances change. It is the same in catamaran sailing and there is nothing bad about it, although some people seem to make alot of fuss about that. I don't know many people at all that keep both a F16 and an A-cat. I know of 2 persons who do but they are both boat collectors. Mostly; the owners gravitate to one boat over the other. The two boats seem to cater to different wish lists and that seperates them enough to eventually favour the one over the other (either way) Personally I love to see both classes co-exist. I love the upcoming GYC A-cat/F16 invitation regatta. It will be the 3rd in the series (2004, 2005, now 2006) and shows both classes getting along quite well. (as well as proving that an US F16 class exists !) Good luck Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#67430 02/27/06 04:54 PM 02/27/06 04:54 PM |
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Posts: 3,528 Looking for a Job, I got credi... | -2- On the start line luff them up. The new A-cats with their flat keel lines and narrow daggerboards tend to have a high rate of drifting downwind. The F16's suffer less from this. So the A-cat has to luff but can't, when he fails to stay clear then protest them out of the race. Ignore the frantic shouting of the A-cats sailor; if he (or his boat) can't handle the heat on the start line then he should start on the second row. Remember, you must give the boat above the ability to keep clear; you cannot just luff up at will.
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