Hey Wouter.... TAKE YOUR F-16s TO YOUR OWN THREAD...........

Uhh... hang on forget what I said

Carry on

T_A:

Not sure if you caught on yet, but F16 is the latest strain of virus that infects every single possible thread on the open forum.

So far no known removal tool has been able to deal with it, as it appears to be rampantly infectious and insidiously annoying.

It does, however, respond poorly to sarcastic humor, to which it responds very defensively.

Carry on.

F16's is the coolest concept on the planet, I'm placing my order with Vectorworks now for 2 of them.

You can get an A cat for much less than $20k

Used min weight - couple years old in great shape $10k - $15k
New XJ $16k -$17k (ok not much less, but less)
An over min weight A was for sale in Newport last year for $3k. That had a Hall mast that was worth $2k at least.
You could have lightened this boat up for the cost of new daggerboards, easy and cheap.

Look around, lots of A cats trading hands for lots less than $20k.

Bill

Eyh, Maughan, you just implied that catsailing is the operating system equivalent to MS Windows becouse viruses pop up everywhere and can't be removed without installing (at least the nasty ones). If compared to operating systems, catsailing at least must be linux or perhaps MacOS. Cool, adaptable, fast and affordable (having just ordered 60 MS Office licences), quite secure and easy to run once you know how to. In that setting, the F-16 class clearly is the "Thunderbird" browser.
Dont know what the Tornado class would be if it was an application in the same setting tough. Word Perfect perhaps?

"Camelot is such a silly place, lets not go there." Clikety-clop clikety-clop clikety-clop etc..

I would tend to agree with that. It's like having four boats in one. Majorly versatile.

Any F16's in northeast US?

Anyone willing to take me for a spin when it warms up? I will reciprocate with my toys, A cat, F18HT, and others.

email me wjvining at yahoo dot com

"We are the Borg .. ehhh .. F16 class."

"F16 will copy your better features into it own design, enhancing its supremacy."

"Resistance is futile; prepare to be assimilated"

Wouter

Woter, Do you ever wonder why people get mad at you?

See : http://www.frappr.com/formula16classgroup

... and growing

btw : the 4 Taipan+spi boats in maryland Virginnia are not on the map as of yet.

Wouter

"Woter, Do you ever wonder why people get mad at you?"

"Joke" as defined by Webster’s New World Dictionary. (1) Anything said or done to arouse laughter. (2) A thing done or said merely in fun.

Personally, I thought it was pretty funny...and drew a good parallel to the sailing community. Status Quo does not really exist…something is either growing (assimilating) or dieing (being assimilated).

Regards,
Seeker

Constantine was second in one of the WRCRA Tuesday night series this year.

I too was quite pleasantly surprised to discover that Wouter has something approaching a sense of humour! - but then, with the amount of abuse he's taken over the last few years, he'd have to have, wouldn't he?

Maybe we should name an award after him, for the most persistent sailor. Call it the "Golden Wouter". As in, gee, did you know that guy has a golden wouter!

Wow...the F-16 sounds great. Single hand option. Double hand option. Fly a chute, race uni-rig. Except for one except: Is there a class here in the States?

I gave up my I-20 (great, GREAT boat) for an A-class (great, Great boat, with no chute) One reason for the change was the ability to race in a fleet. I like the idea of the F-16, BUT I suppose I would race a sabot if there was a fleet of those around.

Are any A-cats thinking of making the switch? Or getting into the F-16 in addition to the A class?

Just wondering?

Michael

I was hoping, that over time, we'd kinda just meld together.

btw- anybody have any tips on down wind sailing, my performance really sucks!

We are have seen several sailors switch. In both directions actually and in equal numbers too.

Often because they wanted to take their kids along or do spinnaker sailing (going for F16), or because they wanted to get into A-cat racing.

Personally I expect to both win sailors from the A-cat class as loose sailors to the A-cat class. It is a natural thing for people to transition from one class to another when their personal circumstances change. It is the same in catamaran sailing and there is nothing bad about it, although some people seem to make alot of fuss about that.

I don't know many people at all that keep both a F16 and an A-cat. I know of 2 persons who do but they are both boat collectors. Mostly; the owners gravitate to one boat over the other. The two boats seem to cater to different wish lists and that seperates them enough to eventually favour the one over the other (either way)

Personally I love to see both classes co-exist. I love the upcoming GYC A-cat/F16 invitation regatta. It will be the 3rd in the series (2004, 2005, now 2006) and shows both classes getting along quite well. (as well as proving that an US F16 class exists !)

Good luck

Wouter

Remember, you must give the boat above the ability to keep clear; you cannot just luff up at will.

There is here in Florida!