From Ft Lauderdale to Singapore round trip with a hotel offer via travelocity.com comes out to roughly $1,700.00

This does not include food, or container cost. Maybe I can use my miles, or timeshare?????


I sent out a quote request to this company:
http://www.rinkens.com/
http://www.omegashipping.com/
http://www.ablecargo.com/

I will keep searching around.

Robi:

How many boats do we need for a container?

Well the containers measure 40ft long by 8ft wide by 8ft tall.

As many as we can fit in. I will fireup my vector software and I will return with that information.

Our boats measure 16ft long and the masts are 28ft long. As many as we can squeeze in.

I do not have inmediate access to my boat, can anyone give me a rough estime of the dimensions of the blade, taipan. All I need is width and height.

A 40ft container fits 12 boats including masts, beams, cattrax, etc.
You stack the hulls and masts with a four layer pipe structure as used in construction.

hmmm, so far I have been able to fit 16. I am nore sure if I have my measurements right though. I am going off a drawing, I have never shipped a boat anywhere so do not take my word for it. Although even TWELVE boats is a lot.

If anyone can give me some rough guestimates of how high the blade and taipan are in inches or milimeters I can get a better picture drawn out.

Daggerboard head on Taipan is 450 mm and I think the blade daggerboard head is 500 mm.

Width at max point is less then 400 mm for both boats. Probably between 320 mm and 350 mm

Wouter

If we are talking about the standard Taipan 4.9 (with spi) then I agree with you, however the never F16 designs like the Blade and Stealth do really carry weight noticeably better. I probably should have underlined this difference more clearly in my previous posting.

Last time I "raced" against a VWM Blade F16 I could barely keep up while they had at least 160 kg on board (= min. 353 lbs); my combined weight on the Taipan F16 was max. 147 kg (= max 325 lbs). One of that Blade crew owned a Taipan 4.9 at the time and decided right after that test sail to sell it and buy a Blade. He just picked his new boat up 3 days ago.

They were competitive alright; at 160+ kgs. We both hit 18 knots under spinnaker that day during a gust, but they slowly walked away anyway. We were single trapping upwind so the wind was not so strong as to direcly favour the heavier crew.

Wouter

I think it was the person steering who made the difference

(just kidding of course)

Hi Robi,

Greg Goodall suggested 13 F16's would fit in a container, I assume this is based on his experience with shipping assembled Taipans. So if boats are full width F16, this would mean dissasembly required, so it may be possible to fit in more if they are dissasembled?

This sort of number certainly cuts costs for shipping.It would be great to have some Septics there. I hope this event can be the first Worldwide coming together of F16 enthusiasts, the racing is secondary.

Regards Gary.

Are you MAD!?????

Taipans don't fit inside a sea-container when assembled. I heard that a 2.3 mtr wide A-cat had only 20 mm space on each side. A Taipan is 2.34 mtr. wide meaning it is jammed tight between the sides of the container. So the quote most be for fully disassembled boats.

I'm certainly planning to come out to the event to enjoy myself in a leasurely way. Daniel van Kerckhof, John Pierce, you and the Spitfire boys are definately outside of my class.

Although I've been working on a secret wapon recently.

Wouter

Assembled boats will NOT fit into a container. The inside measurements are 8 ft wide. F16s are wider than 8 ft.

What is the length of a container? Or do they come in different lengths?

There are different lenghts Mary.

You get to choose from
length, width and height
20' X 8' X 8'
40' X 8' X 8'
40' X 8' X 12'

I know there are a few 52' containor out there, but I dont think those containors are shipable. I beleive those are kept within the US.

They do come in different lengths. As I understand it, you need a big one (40ft?) because of the masts, and this is why shipping a small number of cats is so expensive.

One thing that Hans and Matt will tell you is that shipping in a container takes a lot of care, as you can rest assured that the container itself will not be handled with care.

Paul

You are right Paul. 40ft would be the container to use.

And yes packing has to be performed with extreme car and to make sure NO parts or boats move about inside the container.

That would be bad, very bad.

I have talked to Robert Onsgard about this, because for about 12 years he organized groups of boats to go by container from South Florida to various events in the Caribbean. He says they used a 40-foot container, and the boats were always shipped completely disassembled. The number of boats that will fit into the container depends upon the width of the hulls. For instance, they were able to fit 15 Nacra 6.0's but only 12 Inter 20's.

They built plywood racks two levels high for the hulls, and left the floor space open for masts, beams, beach wheels, etc. A few times they saved the racks and re-used them the next year, but usually they just threw the wood away and rebuilt them the next time.

You will be interested in this, Wouter, because he said that the guys who came to the events from the Netherlands were able to get more boats into their container because of some kind of telescoping tubing that they used, that took up less space than 2x4's.

If anybody is seriously considering packing up a container of boats to go to Singapore, let me know, and I can put you in touch with Robert, because he could be very helpful.

Hi Guys,

We can (and do) ship up to 12 F18's in 1 40' container. These are packed very snugly and there is not a lot of room to spare afterwards. I suspect you could jam a couple more in but the risk of damaging boats & gear would rise substantially.

The F16's are a little smaller but not a whole lot different when it comes to fitting them in a container.

Tiger Mike

Thank Mary,

Wouter

Hi John,

thought you would have picked up from my posts by now, I never take the racing seriously , us Aussie's are like that.

Regards Gary.