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Re: JPOR [Re: Wouter] #76641
06/06/06 07:39 AM
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This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !


Would you kids stop bickering over 714, because that is my number! I have hull(s) 714 and sail 714.<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Apparently, this happened because I went with Glaser sails and now we have two 714 mainsails floating around. Since Robi's boat and mine will probably never meet, it is really not a big deal if Robi continues to use that number. Fortunately with Robi's decal business, he can make his own numbers whenever he wants to.

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Re: JPOR [Re: Jamie] #76642
06/06/06 07:41 AM
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This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !


Would you kids stop bickering over 714, because that is my number! I have hull(s) 714 and sail 714.<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Apparently, this happened because I went with Glaser sails and now we have two 714 mainsails floating around. Since Robi's boat and mine will probably never meet, it is really not a big deal if Robi continues to use that number. Fortunately with Robi's decal business, he can make his own numbers whenever he wants to.

Jamie
TRUE! but seing how we are in the US, you just never know. That is why I am adding PUR to mine.

Plus Bruce - Bobcat is in Canada so he can still get 714. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Wouter, can you point me to the rule regarding sail numbers please. I will do my own research after this post.
<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76643
06/06/06 07:50 AM
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Plus Bruce - Bobcat is in Canada so he can still get 714.


Except, I suspect that the HIN will contain a different number than 714. So it would be a matter if he wanted his sail number to match his boat number

Jamie

Re: JPOR [Re: Jamie] #76644
06/06/06 07:58 AM
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Ehh well it is an issue as the nation code + sailnumber is required to be unique in the world. So we can't have two "USA 714"

Actually this is an issue that the US class associations needs to sort out. The first member to register himself as an official member with a given sailnumber will be the rightful owner !

Wouter


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Re: JPOR [Re: Wouter] #76645
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Ehh well it is an issue as the nation code + sailnumber is required to be unique in the world. So we can't have two "USA 714"
Wouter, dont worry about it. There is NO TWO 714s in the US. Jaime is the official US-714. I clearly stated I am going to add PUR to my mainsail. I will be PUR-714. Bruce will be CAN-714.

I am sure we can sort it out. Dont worry about it. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76646
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Was decided on this forum about 18 months ago. I'm to pressed for time to look for it.

Besides you have registered yourself with me personally as an official F16 class member with the sailnumber USA 701. You were awarded rights to that number and therefor you have to keep it. This listing was transfered to the new F16 governing council and lets not confuse these guys anymore then we have too.

The only was to get a new sailnumber is to sell your boat and agree that the new owner takes over your sailnumber after which you can ask for a new one when you have bought a new F16.

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Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76647
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John Alani. the New Formula 16 class secretary since 1 may 2006

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Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76648
06/06/06 08:08 AM
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At the same time it was decided that we use the official ISAF nation codes. So if PUR is an officially recognised Nation code by ISAF then PUR 714 could be already IF john alani agrees to that.

Actually guys, we're an official class now so changing sailnumbers is more complicated then just writing a note.

Sorry about that.

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Re: JPOR [Re: Wouter] #76649
06/06/06 08:09 AM
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This listing was transfered to the new F16 governing council and lets not confuse these guys anymore then we have too.
I will get in touch with them and propose what I have posted here about adding PUR to my new number. If they are against it, then I will have to RIP 714 off my mainsail. What will happen if my new mainsail gets damaged? Will they cover the repair? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I would much rather add to the mainsail, than to take those numbers off.

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76650
06/06/06 08:16 AM
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Robi,

as long as you are a bit careful, you should not be able to damage your sail by removing the sailnumber.
I have done this several times, and never had any trouble with ripped seams etc. I would be surprised if you did.

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76651
06/06/06 08:18 AM
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Removing sailnumbers from a sail is not that hard.

There should not be any damage what so ever if you take a little care.

I beleive the glue stains can be removed with a little anti-freeze windshield fluid.

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Re: JPOR [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #76652
06/06/06 08:18 AM
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I have just sent an official request to John Jalani. I want to be changed from 701 to PUR-714.

Let's see how that goes. NOW back to the JPOR thread please.

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76653
06/06/06 09:52 AM
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Robi, I have sent you a PM.

To those parties that have taken an interest in this matter, please leave it alone until Robi and the F16GC have reached a decision. Thanks.

EDIT: No official intervention/decision required in this matter as Robi has elected to number his new mainsail as 701. The status quo is maintained... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Last edited by Jalani; 06/06/06 10:53 AM.

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Re: JPOR [Re: Jalani] #76654
06/06/06 11:07 AM
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Robi, you were born in Puerto Rico right?

Would you say there is more of a sailing culture in FL than back here?

Re: JPOR [Re: Galeo] #76655
06/06/06 11:10 AM
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Robi, you were born in Puerto Rico right?

Would you say there is more of a sailing culture in FL than back here?
I was not born in Puerto Rico, but raised. I lived there since I was three years old and moved out at 22. As far as beach cat sailing goes. Yes I think FL has a bigger community compared to Puerto Rico. As far as mono-slugs go, I would venture out and say Puerto Rico is bigger.

BUT take this as a grain of salt, because I have not been able to sail beach cats in Puerto Rico and I have NOT been able to sail mono-slugs in FL. I am constantly traveling back and forth, and I really have not seen much beach cat action going on in Puerto Rico.

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76656
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Yeah I know what you mean, i currently crew in a mono, and it seems hard for cats to have good beach access here.

Do you keep your cat at your house and trailer back and forth, or do you keep it at the beach?

Sorry for the many questions, but I am considering moving there eventually, and would like to know how the sailing scene works.

If /when that happens my #1 priority will be getting a Blade jejeje.

Re: JPOR [Re: Galeo] #76657
06/06/06 11:23 AM
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I sent you a private message.

Re: JPOR [Re: Robi] #76658
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Ok, just anwered it.

Re: JPOR [Re: Galeo] #76659
06/06/06 01:04 PM
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Robi,

What about pics? It didn't (really) happen unless you have it on film!


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Re: JPOR [Re: tback] #76660
06/06/06 01:14 PM
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Quick question on F16 uni:

When going to weather (and trapeezed) in moderate air, I felt like I wanted to be further forward than my tiller extension would allow. I could (maybe) have one foot forward of the side stay and felt like another 3-4 inches on the tiller would have allowed me to be a bit more forward and drive the leeward hull thru the water better.

Is this thinking correct? Keeping the leeward hull deeper in the water (almost to the point of "diving").


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