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Press release winners (translated by babelfish) [Re: Wouter] #77867
06/18/06 02:39 AM
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Texel, Saturday 17 June 2006 Remco Kenbeek and Paul brouwer became with their F18 Capricorn the overall winners of the 29ste Zwitserleven round for texel. Announced in a packed up tent and Chris Zegers, names the Dutch on Saturday night 17 June 2006 their prices in reception. Their projection proved to be only forty seconden on Hans Primowees, which solo with 26-jaar old Prindle 15 the waddeneiland rounded off.

F18-wereldkampioenen hover Bundock and Glenn Ashby (OWS) finished place on the third. The variable need northwest wind made of it a cumbersome race, which was accomplished by 396 catamarans. "we sail five years together and he the best crew which I ever have have been had", said to Kenbeek on the podium concerning its half-measure Paul brouwer. The men stood the previous years already more often on the podium of the Zwitserleven round for texel, but never on the highest trede. To hover Bundock stood already sometimes, but were today badly gone there. Bundock: We had clear ourselves gone forward. When the wind on the wad after Vc-boei were omitted, we let us pass through under many boats. We lay almost in first position overall and even even for Remco. He got the bries only earlier than we and afterwards he had left. In the rak to Oudeschild it became just as bladstil. There seemed sit a bries on sea, therefore many teams applauded there naartoe. Then the wind under the side and sheaves came set up the catamarans as a result, under the rest of the fleet. This way gambled team Zwitserleven Booth/Dercksen, but also Carolijn brouwer and Sebbe Godefroid the chance on line honours.

"old junk" whereas the booty seemed be, Hans Primowees went out beverwijk district from nothing almost vandoor. By the luidspreker was hear that he was removed after 5:23:20 hours seconden still some of the triumph. Its woman shouted Liesbeth as from the range which he had go by. On the line it seemed even that Primowees were the winner, but he nevertheless appeared come converted forty seconden shortage. Primowees: I have had ordinary luck. It a strange day with strange wind was. On the wad I have caught up with certain two - or three hundred cats, which went all to sea. At the first gate the solozeiler fell still overboard: "I had suncream to my hand, therefore I slipped then I on the fuselage supported."

To be Second place call overall is not only onverwachts, but also remarkable. Primowees sailed, as it happens, with one 26-jaar old Prindle 15 and with twelve years old sail. He paid a long time ago two thousand guilders. Primowees: "and I have a dent in my mast, as a result of which rotates badly that." Liesbeth Primowees did not keep dry it at night at the distribution: It is this way beautiful. Not sponsored and with its own old junk. Really foolish.

To hover Bundock were possible there, however, to laugh that he had let the Prindle go 15-zeiler for: That is ordinary cool. I have in former days also sailed on Prindle.

Top five end results Zwitserleven round for texel 2006:

1. Kenbeek/brouwer (NED), F18, 4:13:58 hours corrected time
2. Primowees (NED), Prindle 15, 4:14:36 hours corrected time
3. Bundock/Ashby (OWS), F18, 4:15:39 hours corrected time
4. Huntelman/time
5. Heemskerk corrected of of the camp, F18, 4:18:46 hours/the farmer, F18, 4:19:06 hours corrected time



I guess we'll all runout and buy Prindle 15's now !

Last edited by Wouter; 06/18/06 02:39 AM.

Wouter Hijink
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Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #77868
06/18/06 03:38 AM
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Has it ever been cancelled or shortened?


I know it was cancelled in 2000, as I had made the trip from the UK, two ferry journeys and a whole heap of fuel towing my H16, only to have it cancelled on the morning of the event <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

There was a big group of us from my sailing club so we still had a good time, its just a shame we didn't get to sail. To be honest if you like cats its worth going just for the atmosphere.

Gareth

Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77869
06/18/06 04:52 AM
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During the race everything came in great with results coming in as soon as they occurred. After the first 46 finishers I had to go to the beach, Dunedin Florida, to watch the first of the 8 new F-18 Capricorns that arrived in the container at Clerawater FL on Friday hit the water. Now I can not find the link to the results corrected/elapsed results with boat type. The video starts at the beginning of the race and the results don't come up. Any hints?


Terry
Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: dartfast] #77870
06/18/06 01:05 PM
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Pipo the only 18HT in Texel finsihed in 48th position!

Not to bad for a firsttimer, eh :-)

:just joking
he can be very agressiv at the start!


Andi, Switzerland
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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: alutz] #77871
06/19/06 09:11 AM
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How many F-16s raced?

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: HobieZealot] #77872
06/19/06 01:41 PM
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How many F-16s raced?



None, as far as I can determine.

Wouter


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77873
06/19/06 02:36 PM
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... apart from the Spitfire, which came in at 16th overall. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Simon] #77874
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I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77875
06/20/06 02:59 AM
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Well. nice sailing job from Hans Primowees. Sailed last years against him on a HC16 in the Texel Dutch Open in the week prior to Round Texel and always lost.

This year in the first match of the Texel Dutch open we pitchpoled with our Hobie Tiger F18 in high waves and I injured my hand. My helm nevertheless could sail Round Texel with another guy. Especially the part between the Lighthouse and Oudeschild was tricky. Boats just floating around in a no-wind zone for almost an hour !
I think that's also a reason for Hans being in the top at the end. The complete field of 430 cats (considerably less than 2005) regrouped after the Lighthouse.

Must admit : the organisation is very well, somewhat commercial for spectators but ok ! And there is a very friendly atmosphere at all the gates. Loads of spectators cheering for the sailors (even the last boat) when passing.
A little bit like the New York marathon.

Maarten
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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77876
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I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter


Indeed
From the class rules:
The design and development of the Spitfire catamaran is directed towards strict onedesign
classes where the true test is between sailors and sailing skill, and not boats.

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: HobieZealot] #77877
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Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter


Wouter Hijink
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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77878
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Next time I meet Booth and Derksen, I'll ask them about their recent poor sailing skills <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Wouter] #77879
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Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter


Coming from a hack like you I'm sure their egos will be severely bruised.

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: PpS] #77880
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Well guys, haven't seen Booth & Dercksen after their race (which started troublesome for them), but at the Hobie-stand in the Pit-Lane we had a laugh, lots of beer and burgers with the wizards from Oz.
So sign in for the next RT on the 23th of june 2007 and lets get that number of boats back to > 600

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: HobieZealot] #77881
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I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter


Indeed
From the class rules:
The design and development of the Spitfire catamaran is directed towards strict onedesign
classes where the true test is between sailors and sailing skill, and not boats.


Always stirring the pot huh…


If he had 10 spitfires to race… he would count his results as a one design. But he doesn’t… he is one of a few in a 500 boat race.

How could he possibly have fun without his one design class around him?…

Well.

Now… If he had an additional 10 F16’s to race… he would count his score up to 20 in F16’s

Since he rates about the same as the F18’s… he would certainly count his score up to 200 or so…

And he damn well wants to know how he finished out of the huge fleet on handicap.


But… that’s no different then scoring your self among the Hobie Tigers (presuming you follow the F18 rules on sail and weight) and then out of the F18 class followed by the level rated class (F18 and F16).

Or you could score US built Hobie 16’s and French built Hobie 16’s in the Hobie 16 class.. haven’t you heard… there is a difference between them (grin)… (Still not sure how you score the the Hobie 16 with Spin that the Youth and Women are now racing internationally) (grin)

If people just raced with your one design philosophy … you would not have Texel. Look at texel… they start 500 boats together…. Everyone is racing everyone…. Then they break it down… (hell, you can break it down till you get to the “class” US built Hobie 16’s)


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: PpS] #77882
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Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter


Coming from a hack like you I'm sure their egos will be severely bruised.

(Some of (edit))The A-Cats are really intimidated by the F-16s aren't they <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I will have a Stealth owner crewing for me next weekend - I am sure we will have fun and a great Event - we are both catamaran sailors <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Dermot] #77883
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(Some of (edit))The A-Cats are really intimidated by the F-16s aren't they


Ahhh, not all of them, but some of them yes.

Wouter


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Dermot] #77884
06/21/06 12:42 AM
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And some Spitfires are really intimidated by the F18's, Aren't they!! Even with their extra rating points, they find it hard to get the F18's

Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: wirebound] #77885
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And some Spitfires are really intimidated by the F18's, Aren't they!! Even with their extra rating points, they find it hard to get the F18's

I think that you missed my point <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Which is, that some A-Cat sailors are afraid that they will loose sailors from their class to the F16 class. They are so intimidated that they resort to calling other sailors "Hacks" on public forums !

If sailors get upset and intimidated because they cannot win races, then maybe, they should not be racing.
I may be upset if I do not sail well. But not because someone else beat me.


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Re: Where are the full results posted ? [Re: Dermot] #77886
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Mate, what are you smoking, Where are "Hacks"? sounds like you have a few issues with them? did they hurt your feelings? or maybe it's because SCHRS is reworking the rule and the extra two free points you have maybe taken away? (Ask Wouter he explained it a while back) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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