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#85971 10/03/06 05:43 PM 10/03/06 05:43 PM |
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Posts: 984 2017 F18 Americas Site | Bill: I think this may be the clue. [color:"blue"]From: JamesCarl Could anyone recommend a good boat I could purchase (I like fast:)? I have friends that sail in the area so I don't really want a single hander.[/color] JamesCarl: In NC I think that the Formula 18 would be a great choice for you! There must be some good deals on boats (f18s) in the area right now as it seems that there are so many sailors that have bought or a ready to buy boats. Later, Dan | | | Re: Suggestions on Cat?
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#85972 10/03/06 06:04 PM 10/03/06 06:04 PM |
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Posts: 1,246 Orlando, FL | NCSUtrey (username) on this forum lives in Raleigh/Durham area. You can find him at www.teamvelocity.com.He might be able to help you with local knowledge about boats for sale and which are racing competitively.
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#85974 10/03/06 08:54 PM 10/03/06 08:54 PM | Anonymous
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Unregistered | If you can't find a good used F18, I would look for a used I-20. It would handle you and ANY crew you wanted to put on it.
Just my opinion,
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#85975 10/03/06 09:11 PM 10/03/06 09:11 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | James,
You are in a pretty good spot. There is a large active class of F18's in NC, SC, and GA and a slowly growing I20 fleet in the same area (Robi - they are NOT dead but are only shifting demographic slightly). FL is not far away for a lot of spectacular racing. There are several competitive F18 and I20 sailors around you.
You didn't mention what kind of budget you are looking at. A decent used F18 is going to go at least $8k and above. Same goes for an I20. There are a ton of other options in older classes too.
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#85979 10/04/06 07:37 AM 10/04/06 07:37 AM |
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Posts: 3,114 BANNED | You just missed out on two I20's fo sale in Raleigh :P (I just happened to get one) and our website is www.velocitysailing.com(not teamvelocity) Call Trey Brown to get the skinny... 919.302.0880 He's definitely the one to talk to. | | | Re: Suggestions on Cat?
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#85981 10/04/06 09:35 AM 10/04/06 09:35 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Not having sailed an F18, I can only vouch for the N20, which I find to be the best for heavier crews. I am 180, my crew is 190, and we were on the lighter side of some of the teams we raced (and occasionally lost to!)
That being said, there is a rumor that it takes a bit more "beef" to handle the cordage on the N20 (spin sheet, main, etc.) but in my conversations with those that have raced both F18 and N20, I think that is just a rumor.
For example, I believe the spin halyards are of similar diameter, and yanking the spin up/down on both boats can get hard on the crew. Spin sheet loads aren't much different, unless you're sailing an F18 with the small sail plan (which you wouldn't with your combined crew weight).
The F18 fleet is growing on the buoy circuit, but I haven't seen tons of them in distance racing. There are a few F18 owners who used to (or still do) own N20s, and are just chasing the rock stars as they move from fleet to fleet. Most of them were sailing the 5.5s before the N20 if memory serves. It's kind of a cyclical thing.
Whichever boat you decide on, know that they are built strongly, well laid out, and parts / service are readily available. You will have plenty of fleet racing in either group (if you are okay with driving to regattas), and there are top notch sailors all around. | | | Re: Suggestions on Cat?
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#85982 10/04/06 11:02 AM 10/04/06 11:02 AM |
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Posts: 168 San Diego | Hi James I am in Raleigh as well and just got a catamaran after racing on monohulls quite a bit. I still plan on racing monos but wanted something more convenient since traveling to New Bern and southern chesapeake gets tiring.
I looked at the F18s and think they are great but decided against because 1. I really couldn't afford it (especially if I wanted to race) and 2. I didn't want to scare my girlfriend too much. I decided on a nacra 5.0 that had been sitting in a barn for most of its life.
I won't pretend to know the cat racing scene but I do know that on lake Jordan and Kerr Lake they race Isotopes. However, they aren't really rough water boats if you plan on going to the coast often.
I would contact both Trey (he is in raleigh and his name on this site is NCSUTrey) and Dan (he is in Va Beach and his name on this site is DanBerger). They both always have or know of a few used boats. I almost purchased a decent Nacra 5.7 Dan told me about. | | | Re: Suggestions on Cat?
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#85983 10/04/06 03:02 PM 10/04/06 03:02 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 829 Charleston, SC NCSUtrey
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Posts: 829 Charleston, SC | You rang?
Get an I20. F18s are for weenies. The I20 is the most bad *noodle* boat I've ever sailed on, and you won't be disappointed...I've got a brand new one sitting in my driveway, and can hook you up with one as well...call me.
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#85984 10/04/06 06:03 PM 10/04/06 06:03 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | You rang?
Get an I20. F18s are for weenies. The I20 is the most bad *noodle* boat I've ever sailed on, and you won't be disappointed...I've got a brand new one sitting in my driveway, and can hook you up with one as well...call me.
(919)-302-0880 Alrighty now...that was across the line. Apparently there are a lot of "weenies" in this area and the "weenies" outnumber the I20 sailors by a pretty large margin. And to think, I stood up for you a few posts back.
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