2 litre, 4-banger Honda:
http://hem.bredband.net/b262106/Boat/trailer.html

/Martin

Is this 3 in a row on topic?

93 F150 302 4x4 ex cab BLACK

You may not like junkscience.com, but he didn't create the data only grouped it in a concise way. I've read much of the underlying research from which he built his pages from. I can understand it b/c of my education, many cannot.

There is money and power in global warming, that's why it's at the forefront like it is. The only thing that we know and nobody will admit to is that we don't know the whole story. It's getting warmer and WE DON'T know why, however we do know that we are coming out of an ice age and that temperatures were much warmer in the past than they are now. A gas that makes up ~0.035% of the atmosphere is minor in comparison to water vapor when you let at the spectrograph of absorbencies of light. Water vapor accounts for ~95% of the "greenhouse" effect.

And for the EU being so far ahead... As of last year, 10 of 15 were well behind on meeting their Kyoto goals with only Sweden and the UK being on track. The rest of the countries have INCREASED their CO2 emissions. Heck, Canada alone was up 23+% since Koyoto. They all talk a good game.....

"We have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we may have. Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest."
-Stephen Schneider (leading advocate of the global warming theory)

"Researchers pound the global-warming drum because they know there is politics and, therefore, money behind it. . . I've been critical of global warming and am persona non grata."
-Dr. William Gray
(Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at Colorado State University, Fort Collins, Colorado and leading expert of hurricane prediction)

Sorry for the OT, but... GW is a serious pet peeve of mine

96 1.8L Mazda 626. Tows the F18 fine, better downhill with a tailwind.
Replaced it wit an 07 Caliber SXT 1.8L but haven't got a hitch on it yet.

Wow! I go to a couple lousy meetings and look what this thread has turned into.

I am not well enough informed on the GH and GW issues so I am not about to get into that mess.

Seeing all of these small cars mentioned just reminded me that my brother pulled his '67 larson 18' "ski" boat with his mitsubishi spider eclipse.

Now that was a sight. We had to power up the boat to help the car pull it out of the launch <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

2000 Subaru Legacy 2 Litre Saloon. Plenty of power for towing. AWD great for grassy camping areas, boat parks etc.

(It seems a shame to guzzle and waste our oil supplies which are finite and took millions of years to accumulate.)

Global Warming? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml

If someone had the audacity to actually read my post, I said that I don't mind taxes that support certain things LIKE ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND DEFENSE.

I think I'm going to go back and talk to my cat.

I would probably put a check mark in the "undecided" column when it comes to the causes of global warming. However, there is a ton of evidence that such climate swings are commonplace when you look outside our perceptual micro-time-line and beyond our modern carbon-dioxide producing capabilities. Even as recently as the middle-age there is plenty of evidence that the earth was in a Little Ice Age. Certainly it stands to reason that a similar natural change could swing us to a warming trend. I do tend to get a little suspicious when people ignore or choose to argue away such indisputable evidence when talking about global warming. Now that it's a high level political quagmire, I believe less of what I hear about it than ever before.

We still don't have a very accurate (rather...agreed upon) way of measuring "the earth's mean temperature" which makes it difficult to look at a chart showing 2 degree rise and get excited about it. Take a look at this chart (which is a little confusing since it puts the current period on the left) that goes back to about 9500 BC. Chart

Audacity <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

play on words. Holy smokes do I have to use Oxford english around here? (pdwarren is an exception ok?)

Is this thread an example of "road rage"?

Apparently, "global warming" should join religion and politics on the list of forbidden subjects among friends and relatives. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Heck, I figure all this GW, GM, and PO stuff falls under the "meaningless discussion" clause of the preamble to the question in the initial post for this thread. For some, these topics have a direct relation to their choice of towing vehicles. For others, obviously not. It's interesting to see what people in different parts of the world think on these subjects. It's also interesting to see what counts as a credible source. Sometimes I think the internet has made it harder to separate fact from opinion. On the other hand, it sure makes it easier to find background information on most sources if you are willing to look.

I think that it's just a bit of "End of Season Frustration" rearing its ugly head. I had my last 2 races and derigged for the Winter yesterday <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Pulsar 1.6 ltr Auto.. Works well for towing and the horse power is OK but it needs Man Power if it backs too far down the boat ramp where its good at building twin sand castles.
As for global warming the car does have Air Con... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

At the beginning of the movie "Borat," in a Kazahkstan village, an automobile is towed by a horse, one horsepower.

So, if all the vehicles in the world were towed by horses and we had 150-horsepower and 250-horsepower, would the damage to the atmosphere be worse from the generated methane from all those horses than from gas and diesel? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I have bad news for you, Horse power actually doesn't equal one horse. I learned about it in physics, it is something like 1 horsepower actually is something like 1/8 or a horse.
It is just a relative number, calculated by how much a horse could pull for 8 hours at a certain speed.

As it turns out cow flatulence is a big contributor to global warming. On average, they produce 542 liters of methane per day.

See http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~wolfman/Essays/Cow.html

Read "State of Fear" by Crichton. Yes, he writes a lot of pulpy type stuff, but he researches the hell out of his books. He does a good job of summarizing the evidence about GW, etc.

Ya, you know what? This time last year the water temperature was 15 degrees higher than it is this year and I for one am pissed!!!!

Global warming my a$$ <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for throwing this thread way off topic Tad. Some of us were actually interested in what people tow with. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />