Looking at getting a new spinnaker made and am tossing up a few ideas.......
So which style do you prefer.
We may have another sponnsor soon who's colours are light green, dark blue and gold..... Hence these colours used in 2 of these designs. If they do not come on board then it will open the choice up a lot more.
Harder to trim, price will be higher as the materials are a bit pricy (as far as I can tell), and it will break down faster (in my opinion). Cloth weight will probably also be higher, but I dont know that.
Upside is visibility and cat spi shapes can actually benefit from a somewhat stiffer cloth.
Re: Spinnaker Colour Help
[Re: fin.]
#93667 12/29/0609:32 AM12/29/0609:32 AM
When purchasing our chute, we were advised to keep the outer panels lighter coloured. This to make it a. easier to see the telltales and b.easier to see chute trim at night
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Re: Spinnaker Colour Help
[Re: fin.]
#93669 12/29/0610:43 AM12/29/0610:43 AM
No such thing as transparent chute material, at least from Challenge, and not in the neato-nifty whoopee Hot Damn latest silicone coated stuff. You don't even have that many choices of colours...
Re: Spinnaker Colour Help
[Re: Boudicca]
#93670 12/29/0610:51 AM12/29/0610:51 AM
The transparent cloth may be only offered in Europe, or offered by another cloth mfg.
We JUST bought our chute from Smyth (Sept.) and at the time, transparent was not one of the offerings. Our chute cloth is the silicon coated by Challenge Sailcloth.
That said, I think the transparent would suck for an entire chute if you were sailing at night, trimming would be a bitch. But for the bottom panels, sure, why not?
Who makes the transparent cloth? What's its characteristics? What do SAILMAKERS think of it?
Re: Spinnaker Colour Help
[Re: Boudicca]
#93673 12/29/0602:28 PM12/29/0602:28 PM
Contact Ullman Scicily and check with Pablo. Like I said, I suspect that the 'invisible chute' is made of window material, but who knows. Surely not a woven cloth, but some kind of laminate. I dont know more about that spi. I guess there is a reason Pablo dont have more information about it on his webpage.
The clear material in the kite made by Pablo is actually the laminate from car windscreens! it is supplied as a film and is easy to work with.
But it does go milky pretty quickly from all the scrunching up and being shoved into a snuffer. So it is not a good option.
As a side bit of info, the strongest colour is Blue and the weakest colours are the flouro ones followed by White and then green and red. This is due to the dye process and how it reacts with the material.
Also the most popular material in the Tornado class is Contender SK75 as it is very stable and pretty light.
SK80 is a very good option for cats as it is stronger in the warp axis than SK75 but it is not allowed in the F18 rules currently so that is a no go.... I would love to get my new kite made from SK80 <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Marcus has been kind enough to lend us the Blade F18 for the worlds, so when thats over and they start building the F16 Blade in Aust then maybe I will have to get my hands on one of them <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Re: Spinnaker Colour Help
[Re: Wouter]
#93680 12/30/0606:37 AM12/30/0606:37 AM
I dont want to hijack Steve's kite colour thread but in answer to your question, the Blade seems very bloody good from our first 5 or so sails on the boat. We have only really sailed one day of races and another day of straight line testing with some Capricorns and we are very happy with the performance at this early stage. We still have a lot of little things to sort out before the worlds start but we are very happy so far.
I would choose neither of the proposed colour schemes. I think the "stars" look very much 70's like.
I would suggest that you keep the main body of the spinnaker one colour and just have the leading egde coloured differently. This looks alot more modern and fast.
Follow this link for an example with only 2 colours.