http://www.gobarefootstudio.com/snu.htmlDennis Key in California is making a slick set up. He calls it a Spinnaker Nesting Unit. Three of us with Tigers have been using them here in the Northwest. Great results. I've had an 11 year old youth, and a 15 year old girl crew for me and they were able to hoist and douse with out problems. My 14 year old son crews for me regularly and has been able to compare the SNU to the Hobie factory soft bag. He prefers the SNU and it doesn't bunch up the sail during the douse.